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Recent Bannings
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Member-Demise
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
you're theory on tabbing banks and such makes alot of sense.. however, why did they wait to ban me today? since i hadn't done it for a while, i can't understand why today. i didn't do it yesterday for example.. so that was just an extra day for me for no reason? it's just confusing in that manner nothing more..
Nottheking;333257 said:Fixed.
Although I don't even know exactly what the exploit was, I think I have a FAIR idea of how they decided who to punish...
From what I'd judge, (it's actually something I've not actually tested with in RunUO yet) the staff *can* tell when people modify their houses. As I recall, house designs, until saved or committed/built, are *not* stored on the server, and are only client-side, so at the very least, committing a design would show as a large bandwidth spike. (I might be wrong, though)
At any rate, the staff would be able to check who was modifying their houses a lot, and also keep tabs on their bank balance... It'd then be pretty easy to tell who was exploiting it, by simply noting who was repeatedly modifying their own house(s) with a rapidly spiraling bank balance, with no other activity. This would leave out those that got their money in a legitimate manner.
Likewise, I'd bet that for those that might've accidentally STUMBLED upon the exploit, but didn't intentionally use it, would be easily noted by the fact that they only modified their house and gained from it perhaps once or twice. And I'd predict that the staff likely didn't do anything against those people, since it could be safely assumed that they were innocent of intentional wrongdoing.
you're theory on tabbing banks and such makes alot of sense.. however, why did they wait to ban me today? since i hadn't done it for a while, i can't understand why today. i didn't do it yesterday for example.. so that was just an extra day for me for no reason? it's just confusing in that manner nothing more..
Member-Demise
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
but you, like many others based your suspician on that 60 mil
pkrlz;333278 said:
but you, like many others based your suspician on that 60 mil
luigi-hybrid
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
Why do they wait to arrest criminals? In order to gather enough evidence, and make sure that noone who is innocent is banned. Simple.
Member-Demise;333302 said:
Why do they wait to arrest criminals? In order to gather enough evidence, and make sure that noone who is innocent is banned. Simple.
Nottheking
Lord
Re: Recent Bannings
As for a gap in people doing it, they can't necessarily tell why that gap is there... Perhaps they were pre-occupied and interested in doing other things? It's really a far-fetched and potentially naive guess to assume that they're "not going to do it again." As the current evidence, at the time, noted that they'd ALREADY clearly broken the rules with that, and did so willingly, without any other action to suggest that they'd be against it. (such as reporting the exploit)
Simple explanation: they probably didn't arrive at a decision and finalize it until today.Member-Demise;333302 said:
As for a gap in people doing it, they can't necessarily tell why that gap is there... Perhaps they were pre-occupied and interested in doing other things? It's really a far-fetched and potentially naive guess to assume that they're "not going to do it again." As the current evidence, at the time, noted that they'd ALREADY clearly broken the rules with that, and did so willingly, without any other action to suggest that they'd be against it. (such as reporting the exploit)
Member-Demise
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
that is exactly what i am saying. im pretty sure i left no evidence over the past week for example.. so if they wer waiting, i wud say they had to wait a little longer cos i wasn't about to do anything for a while for sure. and i mean.. im pretty curious about the evidence, speaking as a curious roamer here.. i wudn't mind tbh to go public on this and if they wanna show exactly how they did it to catch me.. so be it.
luigi-demise;333304 said:
that is exactly what i am saying. im pretty sure i left no evidence over the past week for example.. so if they wer waiting, i wud say they had to wait a little longer cos i wasn't about to do anything for a while for sure. and i mean.. im pretty curious about the evidence, speaking as a curious roamer here.. i wudn't mind tbh to go public on this and if they wanna show exactly how they did it to catch me.. so be it.
luigi-hybrid
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
Yes, but they can't analyze all of the shard's logs in one hour. It takes time, and UO is not their primary job, it's more like a hobby than a job.
Member-Demise;333306 said:
Yes, but they can't analyze all of the shard's logs in one hour. It takes time, and UO is not their primary job, it's more like a hobby than a job.
LadyCrimson
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
To answer your question, crackhead, houses of each banned individual were evaluated and deleted if found to be something that would hinder rather than help the economy.
To answer your question, crackhead, houses of each banned individual were evaluated and deleted if found to be something that would hinder rather than help the economy.
Nottheking
Lord
Re: Recent Bannings
I would seriously think that such a thing would be a bad idea: potentially even worse than re-introducing ToTs. No matter what you're going to do, if you do something to mess with the economy, it's ALWAYS going to screw some people over. In that case, it'd be a major boon to those who stockpiled BRSKs and LToTs, and would absolutely devastate most people who hadn't quite reached the level of trading items like that. In other words, you'd suddenly lose the few hundred players on at any given time that have yet to get a bunch of artifacts, as they just lost everything they worked for. Way to go...jrhather;333324 said:
Re: Recent Bannings
true.
but everybody would be gp-less. BRSK or no, it's hard to sell something if there is no cash to buy it with.
expect a lot of trades
expect prices to go down drastically as people slash price trying to rid themselves of items....which is great for the newb and not so great for the 4-year vet that only sells gtots, arties and brsks.
true.
but everybody would be gp-less. BRSK or no, it's hard to sell something if there is no cash to buy it with.
expect a lot of trades
expect prices to go down drastically as people slash price trying to rid themselves of items....which is great for the newb and not so great for the 4-year vet that only sells gtots, arties and brsks.
Balthazar-demise
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
...Hand caught in the cookie jar I see
. If they exploited instead of reporting it, they deserved to be banned.
Cronus;333010 said:
...Hand caught in the cookie jar I see
. If they exploited instead of reporting it, they deserved to be banned.Dark Dreams
Wanderer
Re: Recent Bannings
Wow.. I hate cheaters! Thanks, admins for makeing the shard alot better
Wow.. I hate cheaters! Thanks, admins for makeing the shard alot better
Nottheking
Lord
Re: Recent Bannings
So it'd just make the economy lopsided even more...
Which is why things like BRSKs, LToTs, etc. have been used as their own currency for quite a while. And I think it's safe to say that perhaps a majority of trades made for items worth over 1 million gold go for other items anyway, not gold.jrhather;333359 said:
I doubt it'd cause a serious value crash for items. It would certainly provide SOME deflation, but I doubt it'd be incredibly serious... And as for the newbs? They wouldn't have anything to *buy* those cheap artifacts with; they wouldn't be as fast as gathering gold as more experienced people. Not to mention they're the ones more likely to be discouraged, since they just lost ALL of their liquid-ish stuff in the gold wipe. So they'd likely quit the shard, and thus there'd be few of said group to buy those items in the first place...jrhather;333359 said:
So it'd just make the economy lopsided even more...
Re: Recent Bannings
No, i didnt say u had bought an orny, I just said someone had bought an orny+gtots+artyes with only cash. I'm sure that the guy used more than 100kk(gold, not itens) in like 1 day.
QFT!
Member-Demise;333303 said:
but you, like many others based your suspician on that 60 mil
No, i didnt say u had bought an orny, I just said someone had bought an orny+gtots+artyes with only cash. I'm sure that the guy used more than 100kk(gold, not itens) in like 1 day.
crackhead;333319 said:
Dark Dreams;333398 said:Wow.. I hate cheaters! Thanks, admins for makeing the shard alot better
QFT!
Re: Recent Bannings
There has been times when I had more than 100 millions just in cash. I never used a exploit to make cash, nor a bug to make me richer, and I do not think that being that kind of rich would automatically make me "guilty". There are a lot of innocent people in Demise that worked hard during a long long time to get to a superior level of cash balance.
Maybe, it is time for people to start doing other kind of things in this shard apart from farming gauntlet looking for arties. Some people really need to know that UO is not only Doom. They will probably shock if they realise all places in this game that can make you have fun, better than running from one room to another on an everlasting loop.
pkrlz;333403 said:
There has been times when I had more than 100 millions just in cash. I never used a exploit to make cash, nor a bug to make me richer, and I do not think that being that kind of rich would automatically make me "guilty". There are a lot of innocent people in Demise that worked hard during a long long time to get to a superior level of cash balance.
Maybe, it is time for people to start doing other kind of things in this shard apart from farming gauntlet looking for arties. Some people really need to know that UO is not only Doom. They will probably shock if they realise all places in this game that can make you have fun, better than running from one room to another on an everlasting loop.
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