Re: Another dark day....
TayM'real said:
This is your problem Prodigy. You don't understand what the discussion is about and why these acts are getting the attention. The news in the US has stories about people dying everyday, on every newscast, at 5 in the morning, 12 in the afternoon and 5 in the evening. People die from natural causes, this is nothing new...but isn't newsworthy. Most families, don't wish for their loved ones deaths to be plastered all over the news.
Now, when someone shoots someone else, we hear about it. I live in Georgia; and we hear all that time (becuase of the high gang activity in Atlanta) of children being shot and killed in crossfire. They receive the same news time, exposure, prayers and support from our community as Britain is receiving now. They have candlelight vigils for these victims and numbers to donate money and supplies to the family.
I get the discussion perfectly well, and I'm saying the same thing. 37 non consensual deaths is 37 non consensual deaths.
Could you tell the parents of those kids shot in cross fire that the people who died in Britain were worth more because they died in the name of terrorism? I sure as hell couldn't.
What makes the London bombing significant, is that (repeating myself for the 3rd time) the conflict was taken out of the middle east and put in the heart of that nation.
And now I'm repeating myself. This has happened before. I don't recall the United States or any one of you getting this "sad" about the Madrid, Spain attacks. I don't recall any memorial set up for them. By a memorial, and the mass press coverage, it's saying "We value the lives of the Britains more then the Spainards." The 37 people who died in Britain is just as tragic as the 37x5 people who died in Spain. Not more, not less.
I like Tony Blair...he's a no nonsense straight forward guy. I especially liked the way he handled things yesterday. He was concerned and rightly so for the welfare of his nation and still was considerate of the issues at hand in G8 with global warming and African poverty...
Tony Blair has a lot of charisma, I like him.
That was foolish. 9/11 wasn't a bandwagoner call. It was a WAKE UP CALL. Whether it was intended to be or not. It was a wake up call to america. To stand united. ONE NATION. This country I agree has been turning to **** for years. But it was a wakeup call to ALL americans to see our country and our freedom and APPRECIATE IT. Which most of us have ALL taken for granted. I took it for granted myself.
A lot of single women put them on their car. They think it looks cute, it's become a fashion statement. Just like those yellow LiveStrong bracelets. Does it make you feel proud you put a sticker on your car? How about sending care packages to soldiers? Donate to the USO/VFW/any one of the military groups.
By all means, continue appreciating and supporting America by having a sticker on your car, which doesn't actually do anything!
call me an american that was effected due to a tragedy because of my ignorancy, but has vowed to stop being ignorant and start being efficient.
This is quite nice to hear.
Bla bla bla.... Americans are so full of themselves...
Please vacate the thread.
The assumption that we need to police the entire world, if what pisses lots of people off.
With greater power, becomes a greater responsibility. If you have the power to stop someone being killed, I would hope you would take action.
Look at it this way: The middle East has the lowest suicide % in the world, the family system is accepted and in place, there is no divorce rate, no child-child killings (outside of terrorist actions).
They are so oppressed they are not allowed to. The "family system" that is in place does not allow the women to do anything, including get an education. They aren't allowed to get divorces buddy. If a child is murdered, then the government tortures the murderer. So it doesn't happen. Should we do this? I think not.
Sounds like the USA at it's prime. Now lets examine the US- School shootings, a rampant porno industry, corrupted politicians (you know it's true), 50% divorce rate, teenage mothers.....hell I know a girl I went to High School with that had an abortion at age TEN! So..... is it any suprise that they call us "The great Satan"?
Damn freedom and the right to do what they want! (For those of you unintelligent enough to tell [Furota], that was sarcasm.)
Now granted that terrorism is the weakest form of fighting known to man, but these same tactics were used by General Sherman in the American Civil War (anyone remember history here- Sherman's "Total War" tactic.) And don't protend that the USA has NEVER done anything terrorist like before, we have, just ask any Special Forces soldiers involved in Vietnam (including a member of my family).
The difference is we have an objective declared by a ruling government. We are always willing to go to the tables and negotiate. These terrorists want their way or no way, and conduct their war without ethics or morals.
The point is, many values and truths depend on a certain point of view, and before you flame anyone for their opinions, take a step back and ask yourself why you feel the way you do. Then, if your heart tells you you are right, follow it, but remember that you MAY be wrong.
This is why it is so complicated. They view themselves as freedom fighters. They believe in a lifestyle ruled by the Koran. They believe in a select few holding a military dictatorship over the millions. Just because they believe that is right, doesn't make it right.