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STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
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Steven_Greer
Sorceror
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
New conspiracies have arose in this situation:
1)The scripter walled himself in, went in on an alternate and released a hiryu hoping his sob story would win over trammies alike and gain support.
2) I was training magery in that area AFK.
New conspiracies have arose in this situation:
1)The scripter walled himself in, went in on an alternate and released a hiryu hoping his sob story would win over trammies alike and gain support.
2) I was training magery in that area AFK.
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
I have? You`re quite the funny character. You`re griefing over a raid that was led by President Bush, who had more power in Barcode over me.
Name any other case where you`ve been lied to by me please.
Quit being delusional and comprehend what the fuck I`ve said. You can talk to Eby himself since he has more credibility to trammies.
lordwolfx;435285 said:
I have? You`re quite the funny character. You`re griefing over a raid that was led by President Bush, who had more power in Barcode over me.
Name any other case where you`ve been lied to by me please.
Quit being delusional and comprehend what the fuck I`ve said. You can talk to Eby himself since he has more credibility to trammies.
lordwolfx
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
My Point Exactly...
If Chronus wants to change the rules, that is certinly his perogative...
But to allow someone to sidestep a rule, that he knew was a rule, and do so without punishing that player?
Just retarded, Why have rules at all?
mantorras;435288 said:
My Point Exactly...
If Chronus wants to change the rules, that is certinly his perogative...
But to allow someone to sidestep a rule, that he knew was a rule, and do so without punishing that player?
Just retarded, Why have rules at all?
Steven_Greer
Sorceror
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
The solution to thread is in post #38
The solution to thread is in post #38
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
Put it this way, Cucumber Jim was logged for the night since he had his son to take care of. President Bush`s log-in ratio is as erratic and random as arty chances in gauntlet.
It was just unfortunate for you guys that he happened to be on when I went to bed that night.
But I know you`re too ignorant to even comprehend what I`m trying to explain so I won`t even bother explaining it anymore to someone as senile as a 90 year old WW2 vet.
lordwolfx;435292 said:
Put it this way, Cucumber Jim was logged for the night since he had his son to take care of. President Bush`s log-in ratio is as erratic and random as arty chances in gauntlet.
It was just unfortunate for you guys that he happened to be on when I went to bed that night.
But I know you`re too ignorant to even comprehend what I`m trying to explain so I won`t even bother explaining it anymore to someone as senile as a 90 year old WW2 vet.
lordwolfx
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
I dont care what you have to say about something that happened a year ago, or what kind of labels you want to stick on me, or what other kind of BS Diahriah of the mouth you want to spew about
Both staff members just said a rule was broken, Chronus said he was going to allow it because of the Emotional Empathy he feels for the player who is whoring the rules
Serenity;434723 said:
Cronus;434956 said:
I dont care what you have to say about something that happened a year ago, or what kind of labels you want to stick on me, or what other kind of BS Diahriah of the mouth you want to spew about
Both staff members just said a rule was broken, Chronus said he was going to allow it because of the Emotional Empathy he feels for the player who is whoring the rules
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[Drakull]
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
Yes, precisely that was wrong: an organized plot where a guildmate (probably without previous jailings) was used to break the rules. He didn't forced his teammates, but he was also part of the rule breaking and he took advantage of that rule breaking. His guildmate did it on his own free will with nothing to lose (but spending a few hours/days with that char in jail... big deal having 3 other accounts to play with during that time) and giving his guildmate the unfair advantage to re-plot a house.
To give you a different example of what you are defending :
Let's say that I'm in the guild XXYY and I found a way to get into the inquisitor's resolution room. Of course, I don't want to risk my already awesome account, so I contact one of my guildmates using ventrilo and ask him to follow my indications to get into the room and he does it (breaking the rules by exploiting a bug). Once he is inside, he opens a gate to my castle and I get into the room (I did nothing illegal, just going through a gate that someone else open...someone else that is not one of my chars or my accounts, but (what a chance) a guildmate that has just broken the rules). Since he has broken the rules to exploit a bug to get in the room he gets jailed, but since I have just "being lucky on having that gate open on front of my door", I should be allowed to just steal the inquisitors and the lamp from that room, shouldn't I?
Same thing here: you get a guildmate to break the rules for you so you don't risk your accounts and that way there are no "theorerical" links between your chars (other than being guildmates speaking on ventrilo) and you are supposed to be able to take advantage of his illegal actions, isn't that what you are suggesting?
Or even more obvious: If a guildmate suddenly finds a bug (I'm totally unaware of that bug, nor using it and even less having to do with it in any of my chars/accounts), that allows him to dupe his orny multiple times and he gives me 10 ornys. When someone notices and he gets jailed, he of course will lose the ornys in his possesion, but should I be allowed to keep the 10 ornys that were illegally obtained in first place? I haven't broke any rule by just taking the ornys (even if I might know they were not obtained legally), have I??
Again: I haven't said that Eby or any of his chars/accounts was the one releasing the pet, but that he has also involvement on getting a guildmate releasing the pet so he could get a gain (in this case expanding his house) (is that more clear?). He should have been punished in this case by loosing the illegal gain.
Hyphy Train;435284 said:
Yes, precisely that was wrong: an organized plot where a guildmate (probably without previous jailings) was used to break the rules. He didn't forced his teammates, but he was also part of the rule breaking and he took advantage of that rule breaking. His guildmate did it on his own free will with nothing to lose (but spending a few hours/days with that char in jail... big deal having 3 other accounts to play with during that time) and giving his guildmate the unfair advantage to re-plot a house.
To give you a different example of what you are defending :
Let's say that I'm in the guild XXYY and I found a way to get into the inquisitor's resolution room. Of course, I don't want to risk my already awesome account, so I contact one of my guildmates using ventrilo and ask him to follow my indications to get into the room and he does it (breaking the rules by exploiting a bug). Once he is inside, he opens a gate to my castle and I get into the room (I did nothing illegal, just going through a gate that someone else open...someone else that is not one of my chars or my accounts, but (what a chance) a guildmate that has just broken the rules). Since he has broken the rules to exploit a bug to get in the room he gets jailed, but since I have just "being lucky on having that gate open on front of my door", I should be allowed to just steal the inquisitors and the lamp from that room, shouldn't I?
Same thing here: you get a guildmate to break the rules for you so you don't risk your accounts and that way there are no "theorerical" links between your chars (other than being guildmates speaking on ventrilo) and you are supposed to be able to take advantage of his illegal actions, isn't that what you are suggesting?
Or even more obvious: If a guildmate suddenly finds a bug (I'm totally unaware of that bug, nor using it and even less having to do with it in any of my chars/accounts), that allows him to dupe his orny multiple times and he gives me 10 ornys. When someone notices and he gets jailed, he of course will lose the ornys in his possesion, but should I be allowed to keep the 10 ornys that were illegally obtained in first place? I haven't broke any rule by just taking the ornys (even if I might know they were not obtained legally), have I??
Again: I haven't said that Eby or any of his chars/accounts was the one releasing the pet, but that he has also involvement on getting a guildmate releasing the pet so he could get a gain (in this case expanding his house) (is that more clear?). He should have been punished in this case by loosing the illegal gain.
EvilChild
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
It's not what you THINK happened
It's what you can PROVE happened
and even then the staff have the final say anyway
Can anyone of you prove that eby forced guildmates to release pets / wall off people in luna?
No, you can't
Here's an argument for you...
Who is to say that some random person didn't see a bunch of people running around near a house plot. Random said person happens to be a tamer and happens to want some fun... so he releases a pet. Random mage walking by sees this pet about to go ape shit on some naked character (who unknowingly to anyone else, was attempting to place a house plot). Mage sees the character in danger and walls them off to save them (thinking they are afk)... then the pet is dealt with. Eby sees an oppurtunity to expand a house and takes it.
So, Eby is merely an oppurtunist, the mage was a benefactor, and the real criminal was the ru releaser.
Saying ebys house should be taken away is the same as saying: Someone in gauntlet walled me off so I couldn't get looting rights on a monster. Player 2 got an orny from said monster. Player 2 benefitted from someone breaking the rules, therefore Player 2s new orny should be deleted.
I think everyone can agree with me that this would just be fucking stupid.
It's not what you THINK happened
It's what you can PROVE happened
and even then the staff have the final say anyway
Can anyone of you prove that eby forced guildmates to release pets / wall off people in luna?
No, you can't
Here's an argument for you...
Who is to say that some random person didn't see a bunch of people running around near a house plot. Random said person happens to be a tamer and happens to want some fun... so he releases a pet. Random mage walking by sees this pet about to go ape shit on some naked character (who unknowingly to anyone else, was attempting to place a house plot). Mage sees the character in danger and walls them off to save them (thinking they are afk)... then the pet is dealt with. Eby sees an oppurtunity to expand a house and takes it.
So, Eby is merely an oppurtunist, the mage was a benefactor, and the real criminal was the ru releaser.
Saying ebys house should be taken away is the same as saying: Someone in gauntlet walled me off so I couldn't get looting rights on a monster. Player 2 got an orny from said monster. Player 2 benefitted from someone breaking the rules, therefore Player 2s new orny should be deleted.
I think everyone can agree with me that this would just be fucking stupid.
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
unlike the case here, where there was ONE reward for everyone located around the area. the same way we can not prove p-dancer was involved, you guys can not prove he was not. it's a two edged knife.
your comparassion was utterly retarded. everyone has an equal chance of acquiring artifacts in gaunt, it's not one unique artifact per boss. walling the guy so he wouldn't get loot rights does not influences the chances of the others to acquire artifacts. he could be summoning stuff on a df for example, but that's beyond the point.EvilChild;435374 said:
unlike the case here, where there was ONE reward for everyone located around the area. the same way we can not prove p-dancer was involved, you guys can not prove he was not. it's a two edged knife.
lordwolfx
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
simple fact, Chronus recognized that actions occured which broke the rules, he recognized that the actions originated of and around the home owner, to ensure he could resize his house, he recognized that he bent one of the rules of the shard giving 1 player an unfair opportunity...
srsly, if you want to act like a total jackass, go to fel and do it where its celebrated
simple fact, Chronus recognized that actions occured which broke the rules, he recognized that the actions originated of and around the home owner, to ensure he could resize his house, he recognized that he bent one of the rules of the shard giving 1 player an unfair opportunity...
srsly, if you want to act like a total jackass, go to fel and do it where its celebrated
Novice_starter
Wanderer
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
It's funny to see that the majority of Eby's defenders are from Zen or their friends.
It's funny to see that the majority of Eby's defenders are from Zen or their friends.
Ageless Venomous
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
Humm.
3 things:
1 - You wouldnt be able to place that house there as you need 2 tiles of distance between each house to place another.
2 - Sorry for that happening to you, sometimes pricks are just pricks.
3 - I lol'd.
Humm.
3 things:
1 - You wouldnt be able to place that house there as you need 2 tiles of distance between each house to place another.
2 - Sorry for that happening to you, sometimes pricks are just pricks.
3 - I lol'd.
[Drakull]
Knight
Re: STAFF: guy trapping me with Wall of Stone
It's not what I think happened, it's not what you can prove happened: it's what the staff considers it happened. If the staff considers that you are guilty of something it's you who has to prove your innocence (trust me, I learnt the hard way).
Can you prove he didn't?
If that random mage were trying to save the person by INVISING (that is the more usual way in that kind of situation, since it stops the targeting on the person, not walling the person so he can't run away blocking him, that does not stop the monster from attacking him either)....
If that same random chance that he was not having already ready his char to expand a house in that same moment... well would sound a lot more credible.
You know that a friend of you is going to rob a bank. You are waiting at the bank door when your friend comes with a bag full of money. Your friend, throws the bag to the ground and keeps running, being caught later on by the police. Of course, you just merely happen to be at the right time in the right place and grab the bag full of money instead of reporting about the bag to the police. When the police finds out you, of course, were having nothing to do with the robbery, nor forced in any way your friend to steal the money, so you are supposed to keep the money for yourself. Hey... you just happened to be there, didn't you? What's wrong with it? Why are the police guys trying to get you in jail for just taking that money that was thrown in the street?
Wrong again:EvilChild;435374 said:
It's not what I think happened, it's not what you can prove happened: it's what the staff considers it happened. If the staff considers that you are guilty of something it's you who has to prove your innocence (trust me, I learnt the hard way).
"Forced"??? Who said forced? Better say "asked".
Can you prove he didn't?
If that random person didn't happen to be a "random guildmember" of the house owner.
If that random mage were trying to save the person by INVISING (that is the more usual way in that kind of situation, since it stops the targeting on the person, not walling the person so he can't run away blocking him, that does not stop the monster from attacking him either)....
If that same random chance that he was not having already ready his char to expand a house in that same moment... well would sound a lot more credible.
Nope, saying that his house should be taken away is like saying the following:
You know that a friend of you is going to rob a bank. You are waiting at the bank door when your friend comes with a bag full of money. Your friend, throws the bag to the ground and keeps running, being caught later on by the police. Of course, you just merely happen to be at the right time in the right place and grab the bag full of money instead of reporting about the bag to the police. When the police finds out you, of course, were having nothing to do with the robbery, nor forced in any way your friend to steal the money, so you are supposed to keep the money for yourself. Hey... you just happened to be there, didn't you? What's wrong with it? Why are the police guys trying to get you in jail for just taking that money that was thrown in the street?
I agree... your argument is f* stupid.