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Explosion pots ruin uogamers
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Early Grace
Wanderer
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
if you can't hit them then do targ self and it will fall to the ground.
if you can't hit them then do targ self and it will fall to the ground.
Generic_Player
Wanderer
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
just like to say i just fought a dexer in cyclops valley who threw no less than 30 purple potions at me while i was trying to evade him
luckily another red came and chased him off but i probably would have died to this no-skilled faggot because i would have ran out of refresh potions soon enough. i don't carry half a keg like the dickfaces on this shard do
just like to say i just fought a dexer in cyclops valley who threw no less than 30 purple potions at me while i was trying to evade him
luckily another red came and chased him off but i probably would have died to this no-skilled faggot because i would have ran out of refresh potions soon enough. i don't carry half a keg like the dickfaces on this shard do
The leper affinity
Wanderer
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
I agree it makes for cookie cutter templates. Theres no real diversity in mage templates. Just to be able to compete on an even playing field I dropped GM scribe and took up alchemy. But its not just EXP pots here, runic weaps are an issue too I was very shocked to see one of EA's 4 biggest idiot moves (tram,runic's,power scrolls, AOS) on this server.
I agree it makes for cookie cutter templates. Theres no real diversity in mage templates. Just to be able to compete on an even playing field I dropped GM scribe and took up alchemy. But its not just EXP pots here, runic weaps are an issue too I was very shocked to see one of EA's 4 biggest idiot moves (tram,runic's,power scrolls, AOS) on this server.
Pill Puller-GL
Page
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
100% agree.
As for being old school.... People used to be on dialup so you did not see near the amount of cowards running from a fight. The way I see it if you are gonna attack...fight to the death. If you are gonna run...I will pot you down.
Ices;1743425 said:
100% agree.
As for being old school.... People used to be on dialup so you did not see near the amount of cowards running from a fight. The way I see it if you are gonna attack...fight to the death. If you are gonna run...I will pot you down.
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
why were explosion potions and meteor swarm ever changed to their current state of idiocy to begin with?
both are supposed to hit everyone in the area regardless of flags. making it the way it is now just makes it so every raging jackass that is capable of smearing their drooling face across the keyboard can use them in conjunction with a gaggle of their fellow birth defects without fear of friendly fire.
why were explosion potions and meteor swarm ever changed to their current state of idiocy to begin with?
both are supposed to hit everyone in the area regardless of flags. making it the way it is now just makes it so every raging jackass that is capable of smearing their drooling face across the keyboard can use them in conjunction with a gaggle of their fellow birth defects without fear of friendly fire.
hoglegs
Sorceror
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
AoE on UOGamers won't go back to its original function, mainly because of factioners crying due to getting guardwhacked for tossing explosion pots in town. It also causes them to get murder counts and get ganked by tons of blues outside of town, interrupting their awesome faction eliteness, which, in turn, causes more crying. Damn babies.. I'm all for AoE working CORRECTLY. GM's please make it so.. PLEASE.
AoE on UOGamers won't go back to its original function, mainly because of factioners crying due to getting guardwhacked for tossing explosion pots in town. It also causes them to get murder counts and get ganked by tons of blues outside of town, interrupting their awesome faction eliteness, which, in turn, causes more crying. Damn babies.. I'm all for AoE working CORRECTLY. GM's please make it so.. PLEASE.
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
Yes timed pots and runic are the closest things we have to trammel and aos. ive actualy been able to set this to a razor macro and id say it goes off about 80% of the time and whoa is it cheap. i think razor is the real problem secondary programs have always gimped the game. i remember when there was no last target and people would use secondary program for it even though it was illegal at the time.
while there at making pots hit everyone again they should make reds get guard wacked intown auto like it was during t2a. also there was none this chase and spam pots during t2a even after people got cable modems, it wasnt up until about trammel time.
theres no skill in holding down a button.
also they need to make poisoning trainable on the animals that can train it.
also alot of people in factions ignor that its illegal to have auto cure set.
Yes timed pots and runic are the closest things we have to trammel and aos. ive actualy been able to set this to a razor macro and id say it goes off about 80% of the time and whoa is it cheap. i think razor is the real problem secondary programs have always gimped the game. i remember when there was no last target and people would use secondary program for it even though it was illegal at the time.
while there at making pots hit everyone again they should make reds get guard wacked intown auto like it was during t2a. also there was none this chase and spam pots during t2a even after people got cable modems, it wasnt up until about trammel time.
theres no skill in holding down a button.
also they need to make poisoning trainable on the animals that can train it.
also alot of people in factions ignor that its illegal to have auto cure set.
Pill Puller-GL
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Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
i kill myself with pots a lot of the time
i kill myself with pots a lot of the time
LKP
Forum Member of the year 09'
Re: Explosion pots ruin uogamers
Did you seriously have to fuck with the font and color on every single line? Holy shit, this is annoying to quote.
It's a total of less than 5 seconds per potion. Proof: 6 potions in 29 seconds
You can greater heal maybe a dozen times, then you're out of mana. Meanwhile the guy bombarding you probably has more potions than that, or is making them as he goes, and it sure is a good thing that whoever you're fighting just lets you cast. I mean, who would have the audacity to hit you with a weapon or dump on you or disrupt your heals or poison you while you're healing!?
G-heal pot: Once every 10 seconds.
GE pot: Once every 5.
One GH pot will heal almost as much damage as one GE will do. You do the math.
I haven't tested this, but I'm willing to bet purple potions do more damage over time than it's possible to heal with bandages, even if you're not being poisoned and damaged in other ways. Besides, what portion of PvPers even has healing? Even if it was a legitimate counter (which it's not), the fact that it's not available to every PvP template would make it a relatively poor one.
Off-screening! I hadn't thought of that! It's a good thing all PvP takes place in the field, and not in any kind of situation like, oh I don't know, a duel or a tournament, where off-screening is impossible. It's also good that purple potions freeze the user in place so they can't just chase the guy trying to run away from them. And it's unthinkable that the same people who'd use purple pots would use stun, para blow, or bolas. But you can just break those first 2 with pouches like the spell, right? Right? I'm sure no one will point out the fact that off-screening is generally frowned upon, either...
Ah, yes. Running around corners. That's what I think of when I think of good PvP. True, this does work sometimes, again if there are corners available in the given venue, and you're not stunned or otherwise immobilized. But there are no corners in much of the woods, or open areas of dungeons, or T2A, or on the water, or in caves and mines.
I guess we could resort to heal wands, until they run out of charges. And if we don't need to use weapons. And if our templates allow it. Still, that's an awfully expensive counter to a potion that costs less than 50 gp.
Hiding? Who the hell has hiding? Unfortunately, purple potions are a so-called "area effect" weapon (even though they currently only hit your enemeis, go figure). That means they'll still hit you even if you're hidden or invisible. Thanks to smart last target, the alchemist can just target the floor around you, and he won't even lose his last target when you reveal yourself to try to save your life. The end result is that you've taken the damage and wasted a few seconds, and there's another purple already ticking in his hand. You can't hide if you're in his line of sight anyway, and odds are he's not cooking a potion if that's the case.
Invisibility is a great idea! See hiding above, then add "you're down 20 mana" to the outcome. Bra-vo!
You missed one - rushing the alchemist in an effort to make him hit himself in addition to you. Also a pretty crappy idea, because even if he does hit himself, he hits you, too. Furthermore, if it happens to be an alchy-dexxer, you get whacked to boot.
How can you think any of that is balanced?
If a high number of people using something is an indicator that it's easy, then guess what must not be hard? Haha, who on this shard doesn't have an alchemy-based PvP character? I choose not to use it because I consider it to be cheap. I also don't use stun punch or a handful of other lame tactics because anything that doesn't have a legitimate counter doesn't belong in PvP. You don't have to agree with me, and you can keep using your weak arguments to defend your weak tactics, but you'll continue to get schooled by people of a higher calibre, on and off the battlefield.
Did you seriously have to fuck with the font and color on every single line? Holy shit, this is annoying to quote.
Early Grace;1743448 said:
It's a total of less than 5 seconds per potion. Proof: 6 potions in 29 seconds
You can greater heal maybe a dozen times, then you're out of mana. Meanwhile the guy bombarding you probably has more potions than that, or is making them as he goes, and it sure is a good thing that whoever you're fighting just lets you cast. I mean, who would have the audacity to hit you with a weapon or dump on you or disrupt your heals or poison you while you're healing!?
G-heal pot: Once every 10 seconds.
GE pot: Once every 5.
One GH pot will heal almost as much damage as one GE will do. You do the math.
I haven't tested this, but I'm willing to bet purple potions do more damage over time than it's possible to heal with bandages, even if you're not being poisoned and damaged in other ways. Besides, what portion of PvPers even has healing? Even if it was a legitimate counter (which it's not), the fact that it's not available to every PvP template would make it a relatively poor one.
Off-screening! I hadn't thought of that! It's a good thing all PvP takes place in the field, and not in any kind of situation like, oh I don't know, a duel or a tournament, where off-screening is impossible. It's also good that purple potions freeze the user in place so they can't just chase the guy trying to run away from them. And it's unthinkable that the same people who'd use purple pots would use stun, para blow, or bolas. But you can just break those first 2 with pouches like the spell, right? Right? I'm sure no one will point out the fact that off-screening is generally frowned upon, either...
Ah, yes. Running around corners. That's what I think of when I think of good PvP. True, this does work sometimes, again if there are corners available in the given venue, and you're not stunned or otherwise immobilized. But there are no corners in much of the woods, or open areas of dungeons, or T2A, or on the water, or in caves and mines.
I guess we could resort to heal wands, until they run out of charges. And if we don't need to use weapons. And if our templates allow it. Still, that's an awfully expensive counter to a potion that costs less than 50 gp.
Hiding? Who the hell has hiding? Unfortunately, purple potions are a so-called "area effect" weapon (even though they currently only hit your enemeis, go figure). That means they'll still hit you even if you're hidden or invisible. Thanks to smart last target, the alchemist can just target the floor around you, and he won't even lose his last target when you reveal yourself to try to save your life. The end result is that you've taken the damage and wasted a few seconds, and there's another purple already ticking in his hand. You can't hide if you're in his line of sight anyway, and odds are he's not cooking a potion if that's the case.
Invisibility is a great idea! See hiding above, then add "you're down 20 mana" to the outcome. Bra-vo!
You missed one - rushing the alchemist in an effort to make him hit himself in addition to you. Also a pretty crappy idea, because even if he does hit himself, he hits you, too. Furthermore, if it happens to be an alchy-dexxer, you get whacked to boot.
How can you think any of that is balanced?
If a high number of people using something is an indicator that it's easy, then guess what must not be hard? Haha, who on this shard doesn't have an alchemy-based PvP character? I choose not to use it because I consider it to be cheap. I also don't use stun punch or a handful of other lame tactics because anything that doesn't have a legitimate counter doesn't belong in PvP. You don't have to agree with me, and you can keep using your weak arguments to defend your weak tactics, but you'll continue to get schooled by people of a higher calibre, on and off the battlefield.