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New Player to Demise looking for PVP advice

Longdukdong

Wanderer
Aiight, So I had started a Mage a couple days before I posted here, but after all the posts, I had to fix a bunch of skills, stats, gear, hot keys etc...... I put some cash and gear together, too. Here is my progress so far: Stats w/gear on - 102 HP, 20 stam, 152 mana. Skills w/gear - Eval=110, Magery=100, Med=90, Necro=100, Resist=100, SS=100, Wrest=100. Gear is 70/70/70/70/67, 100 LRC. I set all my hotkeys very close to the 'Hz' forum link. I still have a ton to work on, but I'm really anxious to get started pvp'ing. I know I'm going to get destroyed, but what is the best way to start out and find some fights.

Thanks
The Donger
 

EvilChild

Knight
Get more HP and less mana.

Also, you should probably drop lrc in favor of mr and lmc for the time being.

Otherwise, good luck!
 
Howit peeps.. You seem like your way too into this game..

3 questions..

1. is it worth going melle archer as in archery swords anatomy parrying healing and tactics

2. is bushido any good for pvp.. or a waiste of time..

3. how good is archery really against a warrior with good ar.. and is it worth it for pvp
 

Barnicoat

Knight
General rule seems to be that every 30 points of dex is .25 seconds.

So with a heavy crossbow and 10 stamina, you are firing every 5 seconds (default swing speed displayed on weapon). With 150 dex, you are firing at 3.75 seconds. If you had a heavy xbow with 30 Swing Speed Increase, you are firing at 2.75 seconds.

Other questions:

1/ Probably not.
2/ Depends, possibly not.
3/ Archers seem to be the crappiest of the three general types (melee, mage, archer) for pvp. Unless you are in a group of stealth archers, but that doesn't really count.
 
Im keen in finding something that doesnt necc require magery but if its necc then sure ill do it.. otherwise looking for something interesting and sneaky.. i heard nijitzu is a pretty good one with the backstab or something. just looking for any options that doesnt need magery but list the 3 main pvp temps and their stats that would compliment them.. if you can..
 

uocarnage

Squire
115 Magery (TOME!)
115 Eval
115 Wrestling
115 Spirit Speak
100 Resisting Spells
105 Necromancy
XX Meditation
(scroll mage eval and wrestle to 120 when possible)

2/6
all 70's or as close as possible.

Dont use LRC until you have a viable suit. Instead, buy a shhiiiitttoooonnnnn of regs. Make an HPI/LMC/MR suit. Use HOL, divine or kasa or if you can afford it a HOm or talkeesh.

Dont use a shield. (unless you NEED an arcane to get to 2/6)

CARRY POTS. set hotkeys to drink pots. No pots = you die.

Set all your hotkeys in razor.
use mini/heal cure. I dont care what anyone else says or does. Its what I use and it works.

Targeting hotkeys:
set last target
clear target queue
cancel last target
target closest grey/blue/red
mousewheel up: target self
mousewheel down: last target
y 105 necro?
 

MB

Knight
mine are:


` - cure
1 - miniheal/cure
2 - gheal
3 - spirit speak
4 - arch cure
5 - teleport
q - magic arrow
w - fireball
e - harm
r - clumsy (won't use heal regs like weaken)
t - poison
y - bless
a - corpse skin
s - evil omen
d - blood oath
f - strangle
g - curse
h - invisibility
j - paralyze field
z - pain spike
x - explosion
c - lightning
v - flamestrike
b - meteor swarm
n - wither
m - paralyze
shift + q - reveal
shift + w - mind rot
shift + e - energy bolt
shift + r - detect hidden
shift + t - poison strike
shift + y - poison field
shift + a - animate dead
shift + s - mass dispel
shift + d - summon death adder macro
shift + f - nature's fury
shift + g - earthquake
shift + h - energy field
shift + j - wall of stone
shift + z - mind blast
shift + x - dispel
shift + c - mana vampire
shift + v - vengeful spirit
shift + b - chain lightning
shift + n - mana drain
num pad 7 - resurrection
num pad 4 - confusion blast
num pad 5 - strength pot
num pad 6 - agility pot
left mouse button - refresh/cure/heal pot (IF stam = 0, drink ref, end if; If poisoned, drink cure, else drink heal, end if)
right mouse button - refresh pot (need one for when you want to chug one and aren't at 0 stam
mouse wheel forward - target last
mouse wheel back - target self
mouse wheel click - target closest red
ctrl + mouse wheel click - target closest blue human
F1 - Last spell
F2 - Target closest grey humanoid
F3 - target closest blue
F4 - Target closest grey
F5 - Target next party member
F8 - Thunderstorm
space - clear target queue
alt+ 1 - primary weapon skill (weapons and attack replace necro spells ASD on dexxers)
alt + 2 - secondary weapon skill
alt + 3 - attack last target
= - dress
ctrl + = - undress to common suit box in house
' - explo pot
l - equip 15 dci shield on for dexxer fights
k - restock from my supply bag
ctrl k - destock excess stuff to my supply bag
u - toggle circle trans
o - resync client
] - add friend
ctrl + ] - remove friend
[ - accept party
insert - gate chaos
delete - gate guild house
home - recall home
end - recall bank
page up - recall brit gate house
page down - recall guild house
0 on Num pad - cure pet
. on Num pad - miniheal pet
ctrl + a - dismount and cast bola
ctrl + z - remount
shift + down - cast stone wall 1 tile South
shift + up - cast stone wall 1 tile North
shift + right - cast stone wall 1 tile East
shift + left - cast stone wall 1 tile West
down - teleport South 10 tiles
up - teleport North 10 tiles
right - teleport East 10 tiles
left - teleport West 10 tiles
ctrl + down - teleport SW 10 tiles
ctrl + up - teleport NE 10 tiles
ctrl + right - teleport NW 10 tiles
ctrl + left - teleport SE 10 tiles
shift + escape - leave star room gate macro
ctrl + 1 - all stay
ctrl + 2 - all follow me
ctrl + 3 - all kill
ctrl + 4 - all guard me
ctrl + 5 - all stop
ctrl + ` - vendor buy bank guards claim
ctrl + Num Pad 1 - Equip Arachnid Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 2 - Equip Demon Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 3 - Equip Elemental Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 4 - Equip Reptile Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 5 - Equip Undead Slayer spellbook
Num Pad 1 - Wisp Mana Boost (Summon Wisp, Mana Vamp Twice, Dispel)
Num Pad 2 - Conflagration Potion Macro
Num Pad 3 - Mount Ethy
Num Pad 4 - Confusion Blast Macro
Num Pad 5 - Strength Pot
Num Pad 6 - Agility Pot
Num Pad 7 - Resurrection
Num Pad 8 - Detonate Trapped Pouch
Ctrl + Num Pad 8 - Trap Pouch Macro
Num Pad 9 - Macro to Unstack Items in Pack into small stacks so harder to loot
Ctrl + Shift + A = Accept Res and Mount Pet (then I have ctrl + shift up still up to dbl click corpse and scoot)
Num Pad - - Toggle Hotkeys On/Of
 

uocarnage

Squire
mine are:


` - cure
1 - miniheal/cure
2 - gheal
3 - spirit speak
4 - arch cure
5 - teleport
q - magic arrow
w - fireball
e - harm
r - clumsy (won't use heal regs like weaken)
t - poison
y - bless
a - corpse skin
s - evil omen
d - blood oath
f - strangle
g - curse
h - invisibility
j - paralyze field
z - pain spike
x - explosion
c - lightning
v - flamestrike
b - meteor swarm
n - wither
m - paralyze
shift + q - reveal
shift + w - mind rot
shift + e - energy bolt
shift + r - detect hidden
shift + t - poison strike
shift + y - poison field
shift + a - animate dead
shift + s - mass dispel
shift + d - summon death adder macro
shift + f - nature's fury
shift + g - earthquake
shift + h - energy field
shift + j - wall of stone
shift + z - mind blast
shift + x - dispel
shift + c - mana vampire
shift + v - vengeful spirit
shift + b - chain lightning
shift + n - mana drain
num pad 7 - resurrection
num pad 4 - confusion blast
num pad 5 - strength pot
num pad 6 - agility pot
left mouse button - refresh/cure/heal pot (IF stam = 0, drink ref, end if; If poisoned, drink cure, else drink heal, end if)
right mouse button - refresh pot (need one for when you want to chug one and aren't at 0 stam
mouse wheel forward - target last
mouse wheel back - target self
mouse wheel click - target closest red
ctrl + mouse wheel click - target closest blue human
F1 - Last spell
F2 - Target closest grey humanoid
F3 - target closest blue
F4 - Target closest grey
F5 - Target next party member
F8 - Thunderstorm
space - clear target queue
alt+ 1 - primary weapon skill (weapons and attack replace necro spells ASD on dexxers)
alt + 2 - secondary weapon skill
alt + 3 - attack last target
= - dress
ctrl + = - undress to common suit box in house
' - explo pot
l - equip 15 dci shield on for dexxer fights
k - restock from my supply bag
ctrl k - destock excess stuff to my supply bag
u - toggle circle trans
o - resync client
] - add friend
ctrl + ] - remove friend
[ - accept party
insert - gate chaos
delete - gate guild house
home - recall home
end - recall bank
page up - recall brit gate house
page down - recall guild house
0 on Num pad - cure pet
. on Num pad - miniheal pet
ctrl + a - dismount and cast bola
ctrl + z - remount
shift + down - cast stone wall 1 tile South
shift + up - cast stone wall 1 tile North
shift + right - cast stone wall 1 tile East
shift + left - cast stone wall 1 tile West
down - teleport South 10 tiles
up - teleport North 10 tiles
right - teleport East 10 tiles
left - teleport West 10 tiles
ctrl + down - teleport SW 10 tiles
ctrl + up - teleport NE 10 tiles
ctrl + right - teleport NW 10 tiles
ctrl + left - teleport SE 10 tiles
shift + escape - leave star room gate macro
ctrl + 1 - all stay
ctrl + 2 - all follow me
ctrl + 3 - all kill
ctrl + 4 - all guard me
ctrl + 5 - all stop
ctrl + ` - vendor buy bank guards claim
ctrl + Num Pad 1 - Equip Arachnid Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 2 - Equip Demon Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 3 - Equip Elemental Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 4 - Equip Reptile Slayer spellbook
ctrl + Num Pad 5 - Equip Undead Slayer spellbook
Num Pad 1 - Wisp Mana Boost (Summon Wisp, Mana Vamp Twice, Dispel)
Num Pad 2 - Conflagration Potion Macro
Num Pad 3 - Mount Ethy
Num Pad 4 - Confusion Blast Macro
Num Pad 5 - Strength Pot
Num Pad 6 - Agility Pot
Num Pad 7 - Resurrection
Num Pad 8 - Detonate Trapped Pouch
Ctrl + Num Pad 8 - Trap Pouch Macro
Num Pad 9 - Macro to Unstack Items in Pack into small stacks so harder to loot
Ctrl + Shift + A = Accept Res and Mount Pet (then I have ctrl + shift up still up to dbl click corpse and scoot)
Num Pad - - Toggle Hotkeys On/Of
lol damn bro your a lil better than i am. thats alot of hotkeys and i have no idea how you learned to press all that shit. but very good reply thank you very much. ill be using some of these.
 

MB

Knight
Comes from adding a few at a time over a couple of years.

Teleport macros are actually 11 tiles.*
 
It's not hard when you add a few at a time, and get used to adding those to your normal arsenal. I never thought i'd be able to survive bola ganks from goofs, but getting that prot ethy macro off is ez pz now that i've drilled it into memory.

Just as many hotkeys as Teh Muscle up there currently if not more


****Don't get me wrong, sometimes i still can't find certain keys "DISPEL FIELD, WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!"****
 

uocarnage

Squire
It's not hard when you add a few at a time, and get used to adding those to your normal arsenal. I never thought i'd be able to survive bola ganks from goofs, but getting that prot ethy macro off is ez pz now that i've drilled it into memory.

Just as many hotkeys as Teh Muscle up there currently if not more


****Don't get me wrong, sometimes i still can't find certain keys "DISPEL FIELD, WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!"****
lol i see. what do you mean prot ethy macro?
 

MB

Knight
If you cast protection before you try to mount your ethy, you can't be interrupted, yet your cast time isn't any slower.
 

Aegian Rayth

Sorceror
I just want to state that it made me fucking angry to see Evil Child in this thread... knowing that Duck ripped off all his items and doesn't even play. (or maybe he does, I guess maybe I don't know)
 
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