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Upcoming Server Move

Mark

Mark

Knight
Upcoming Server Move

Hybrid will be moving to Cincinnati, OH later this month. It is currently hosted in Dallas, TX.

Demise and Divinity were moved there in April and the overall response has been positive. The websites were also moved to Cincinnati recently and I'm sure you've all noticed how much faster the forums are now.

If you are interested in seeing what your latency will be like after the move you can traceroute and ping 209.173.139.110 (Hybrid's current IP address is 67.192.185.136).

Those on the east coast, central United States, Canada, and Europe should see a reduction in latency, no packet loss (compared to transient losses over some of the congested Texas links), less jitter (latency variation), and lower hop counts. Users on the west coast can generally expect their latency to increase 20-30ms but should still see a significant overall improvement given the reduction in packet loss and jitter (which affect gameplay much more than latency).
 
F

Formater

Knight
Re: Upcoming Server Move

JesseJane;1680826 said:
//wrist

goodbye 15ping
Click to expand...

QFT :(


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>ping 209.173.139.110

Pinging 209.173.139.110 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.173.139.110: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=117
Reply from 209.173.139.110: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=117
Reply from 209.173.139.110: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=117
Reply from 209.173.139.110: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=117

Ping statistics for 209.173.139.110:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 42ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 42ms

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>tracert 209.173.139.110

Tracing route to 209.173.139.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
3 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms adsl-64-149-47-254.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [64.
149.47.254]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms dist2-vlan62.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.81.130
]
5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms bb1-g1-0-0.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.80.226]

6 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms ex1-p14-1.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.242.41]

7 17 ms 16 ms 17 ms 151.164.249.246
8 42 ms 41 ms 42 ms 207-250-147-226.static.twtelecom.net [207.250.14
7.226]
9 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 207-250-147-226.static.twtelecom.net [207.250.14
7.226]
10 43 ms 45 ms 44 ms 209.173.128.70
11 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 209.173.128.142
12 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms 209.173.139.110

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>ping 67.192.185.136

Pinging 67.192.185.136 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 67.192.185.136: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
Reply from 67.192.185.136: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=117
Reply from 67.192.185.136: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
Reply from 67.192.185.136: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117

Ping statistics for 67.192.185.136:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 17ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Blah>tracert 67.192.185.136

Tracing route to 67.192.185.136 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms adsl-64-149-47-254.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [64.
149.47.254]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms dist2-vlan52.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.81.66]

5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms bb1-g5-0-0.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.80.242]

6 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 151.164.93.73
7 17 ms 16 ms 17 ms asn6461-abovenet.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.2
49.138]
8 20 ms 17 ms 17 ms xe-1-1-0.er1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.26.210]
9 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 209.133.126.42
10 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms vlan905.core5.dfw1.rackspace.com [67.192.56.229]

11 25 ms 18 ms 20 ms 67.192.56.35
12 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms 67.192.185.136

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>ping UOGamers: Hybrid - Ultima Online Freeshard

Pinging UOGamers: Hybrid - Ultima Online Freeshard [209.173.139.48] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.173.139.48: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=53
Reply from 209.173.139.48: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=53
Reply from 209.173.139.48: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=53
Reply from 209.173.139.48: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 209.173.139.48:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 42ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 42ms

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>tracert UOGamers: Hybrid - Ultima Online Freeshard

Tracing route to UOGamers: Hybrid - Ultima Online Freeshard [209.173.139.48]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
3 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms adsl-64-149-47-254.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [64.
149.47.254]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms dist1-vlan50.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.80.66]

5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms bb1-g1-0-0.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net [69.152.80.226]

6 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms ex1-p14-0.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.41.154]

7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 151.164.249.246
8 42 ms 41 ms 42 ms 207-250-147-226.static.twtelecom.net [207.250.14
7.226]
9 41 ms 42 ms 42 ms 207-250-147-226.static.twtelecom.net [207.250.14
7.226]
10 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 209.173.128.70
11 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms 209.173.128.142
12 43 ms 42 ms 43 ms runuo.com [209.173.139.48]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\blah>

:eek:
 
awbs

awbs

Knight
Re: Upcoming Server Move

ahhh1 i didnt think my ping could get worse! but there you have it.
 
Ryan

Ryan

UOGamers Founder
Staff member
Re: Upcoming Server Move

Guys a few things to keep in mind... if you're going to complain about pings...

If I ran a straight shot of fiber from Denver to Cincinnati for players on the west coast the theoretical minimum ping is about 20ms (this is figuring 200 * 10^6 meters per second for the speed of light (through fiber optic cable)) when you factor in various splices along the way, various network equipment you're going to hit in the area of ~40 - 45ms of latency from Denver.

The bottom line is that ping is not nearly as important as things like jitter and packetloss. Your number one enemy in this game is packetloss and you've been experiencing it all day long in Texas. In order to improve the performance we are getting out of the states where congestion is a major problem (Texas) and moving to Ohio.

This is good for a few reasons... it drastically lowers our bills (long term). Short term I'm spending an astronomical amount of money on servers to do all of this... however once we reach the return on investment for the hardware which will take approximately 12 months our bills will be cut in 1/5th of what they were every month for the past two years. This is a significant cost savings and it allows us to provide MUCH better servers/service.

Thanks for your support... and expect a knockout raffle to come aroud the corner soon to help pay for this new server :)
 
Ryan

Ryan

UOGamers Founder
Staff member
Re: Upcoming Server Move

Ryan;1680889 said:
Guys a few things to keep in mind... if you're going to complain about pings...

If I ran a straight shot of fiber from Denver to Cincinnati for players on the west coast the theoretical minimum ping is about 20ms (this is figuring 200 * 10^6 meters per second for the speed of light (through fiber optic cable)) when you factor in various splices along the way, various network equipment you're going to hit in the area of ~40 - 45ms of latency from Denver.

The bottom line is that ping is not nearly as important as things like jitter and packetloss. Your number one enemy in this game is packetloss and you've been experiencing it all day long in Texas. In order to improve the performance we are getting out of the states where congestion is a major problem (Texas) and moving to Ohio.

This is good for a few reasons... it drastically lowers our bills (long term). Short term I'm spending an astronomical amount of money on servers to do all of this... however once we reach the return on investment for the hardware which will take approximately 12 months our bills will be cut in 1/5th of what they were every month for the past two years. This is a significant cost savings and it allows us to provide MUCH better servers/service.

Thanks for your support... and expect a knockout raffle to come aroud the corner soon to help pay for this new server :)
Click to expand...

One other thing I forgot... this DRASTICALLY improves latency for foreign players.
 
F

Formater

Knight
Re: Upcoming Server Move

Ryan;1680889 said:
Guys a few things to keep in mind... if you're going to complain about pings...

If I ran a straight shot of fiber from Denver to Cincinnati for players on the west coast the theoretical minimum ping is about 20ms (this is figuring 200 * 10^6 meters per second for the speed of light (through fiber optic cable)) when you factor in various splices along the way, various network equipment you're going to hit in the area of ~40 - 45ms of latency from Denver.

The bottom line is that ping is not nearly as important as things like jitter and packetloss. Your number one enemy in this game is packetloss and you've been experiencing it all day long in Texas. In order to improve the performance we are getting out of the states where congestion is a major problem (Texas) and moving to Ohio.

This is good for a few reasons... it drastically lowers our bills (long term). Short term I'm spending an astronomical amount of money on servers to do all of this... however once we reach the return on investment for the hardware which will take approximately 12 months our bills will be cut in 1/5th of what they were every month for the past two years. This is a significant cost savings and it allows us to provide MUCH better servers/service.

Thanks for your support... and expect a knockout raffle to come aroud the corner soon to help pay for this new server :)
Click to expand...

Ryan,
First of all I have 0 packet loss. However since I am in Oklahoma and the current provider has a direct connection to my ISP (AT&T) my ping is super fast. However, I understand that that the same provider has connections with other networks that would cause some people to have packet loss and what not. There will be no change at all in game play from a 20MS ping to a 45MS ping. I am not really bitching. In fact I am all for anything that lowers the bills and allows this to continue. :) I just liked being able to brag that I had about the fastest ping to the server.
Thanks for all you do for us (You too Mark).
 
Ryan

Ryan

UOGamers Founder
Staff member
Re: Upcoming Server Move

Formater;1680900 said:
Ryan,
First of all I have 0 packet loss. However since I am in Oklahoma and the current provider has a direct connection to my ISP (AT&T) my ping is super fast. However, I understand that that the same provider has connections with other networks that would cause some people to have packet loss and what not. There will be no change at all in game play from a 20MS ping to a 45MS ping. I am not really bitching. In fact I am all for anything that lowers the bills and allows this to continue. :) I just liked being able to brag that I had about the fastest ping to the server.
Thanks for all you do for us (You too Mark).
Click to expand...

My post wasnt really directed at you... my post was just an in general note for everyone.

:)
 
D

Dragunov

Wanderer
Re: Upcoming Server Move

old (67.192.185.136): 122 ms with 13 hops
new (209.173.139.110): 134ms with 10 hops


I have thought the new one would be better, since i live in the middle of Europe.
 
F

Formater

Knight
Re: Upcoming Server Move

Dragunov;1680910 said:
old (67.192.185.136): 122 ms with 13 hops
new (209.173.139.110): 134ms with 10 hops


I have thought the new one would be better, since i live in the middle of Europe.
Click to expand...

Less hops is better. To hell with ping. Your under 200ms your fine.
 
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