Howl
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Re: Climategate
Local temperature fluctuations on a daily and even hourly level can far exceed the average global temperature rate of increase. Enough said. Just look at the overall trend for the history of the Earth. Just because you might be in a trough at any particular moment in time, it doesn't mean there isn't an overall increase, and that that overall rate of change is phenomenally great compared to the entirety of Earth's history, with every reason to believe that it is largely anthropogenic (the nature of GHGs, the recorded levels of CO2, methane and NO2, deforestation and albedo changes, climate models for natural fluctuations not accounting for recent trends but models including both natural influences and anthropogenic influences accounting almost perfectly for recent trends).
I somehow feel that I am wasting my time, and that you are going to live up to the prefix in your username with style.
Edit: I'll also add that climate change can have some pretty weird effects on smaller-than-global scales. For instance, raising temperature could melt the arctic ices. The consensus is that we won't have an arctic for the duration of summer within around 30 years time. This would change ocean currents in such a way that warm waters would no longer be brought to Europe, which may be enough to start a snowball effect that could result in Europe being plunged into it's own localized ice age, where as the rest of the world would be experiencing an over-all warming trend.
Further, I'll add that warming estimates, like Brunus said, are averaged over the entire planet. More warming is experienced in areas of greater latitude. Temperature increases around the poles will be the greatest, where as places such as India will hardly see any warming for a while, but of course will suffer all of the secondary effects (sea level rise, biodiversity loss, etc etc.)
Hillbilly Homer;670485 said:2008 2009 coolest year on record
1985 became the fourth coldest year on record in the western USA.
Aug 21, 2009 ... 2009 could very well be the coldest year on record for Saskatchewan
“Temperatures during the first half of the month in the Twin Cities, St. Cloud, Minn. and Eau Claire, Wis., will go down in history as the coldest on record ...
Jan 6, 2009 ... Record cold temperatures have arrived to the United Kingdom, Canada (24 consecutive days below -24 °C in a city).......
when you can get a 5 day weather forecast right then come back and give me the 500 year one
Local temperature fluctuations on a daily and even hourly level can far exceed the average global temperature rate of increase. Enough said. Just look at the overall trend for the history of the Earth. Just because you might be in a trough at any particular moment in time, it doesn't mean there isn't an overall increase, and that that overall rate of change is phenomenally great compared to the entirety of Earth's history, with every reason to believe that it is largely anthropogenic (the nature of GHGs, the recorded levels of CO2, methane and NO2, deforestation and albedo changes, climate models for natural fluctuations not accounting for recent trends but models including both natural influences and anthropogenic influences accounting almost perfectly for recent trends).
I somehow feel that I am wasting my time, and that you are going to live up to the prefix in your username with style.
Edit: I'll also add that climate change can have some pretty weird effects on smaller-than-global scales. For instance, raising temperature could melt the arctic ices. The consensus is that we won't have an arctic for the duration of summer within around 30 years time. This would change ocean currents in such a way that warm waters would no longer be brought to Europe, which may be enough to start a snowball effect that could result in Europe being plunged into it's own localized ice age, where as the rest of the world would be experiencing an over-all warming trend.
Further, I'll add that warming estimates, like Brunus said, are averaged over the entire planet. More warming is experienced in areas of greater latitude. Temperature increases around the poles will be the greatest, where as places such as India will hardly see any warming for a while, but of course will suffer all of the secondary effects (sea level rise, biodiversity loss, etc etc.)