Reximus
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If you killed 1000 DF's, if the points where out of 100, you'd only be at around 6.3 points.
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Doom and Things (Re: 17 days in Doom)
- Thread starter Eos
- Start date
If you killed 1000 DF's, if the points where out of 100, you'd only be at around 6.3 points.
kolbycrouch
Knight
That's not what I'm trying to say, I'm saying that given the amount of kills that it takes to get to that point level, you have so many instances of a low chance, thus all together have a decent chance of having gotten one after that many times. If I kill lady mel for instance 1000 times, it's 2.5% chance each time, but overall it's much higher since I did it 1000 times.
mytilus
Sorceror
The chance for an artifact in the old system was like .05% or something retarded low and they still dropped regularly... you don't need to get 100 points to get an artifact.... in fact mathematically you would have better odds of dropping 2 artifacts in a row than reaching 100 points without getting one. As mb already said use some common sense
kolbycrouch
Knight
That's exactly what I was trying to say, given the amount of kills it takes to build points, you have a very high chance of getting an arty, even with what seems to be a low amount of points, just because of kill quantity.
mytilus
Sorceror
Not to mention once you accumulate 50 points you have a 50% chance of getting an artifact so then you are gonna continue to fail over and over with 50/50 odds? Fail to roll over and over while accumulating fractions of a point from each kill... how about at 75 points when statistically for every 4 mobs you kill you would likely get arty roll on three of them. Still failing to roll over and over and over and over to reach 100%??? Congratulations Reximus you win the title of head retard July 2014
Reximus
Page
You guys are too dumb to communicate with.
It's obvious it's out of 1.0 not 100, otherwise you'd have to kill some crazy amount like 16,000 DF's to have 100 points with the points system, if "Most people receive an artifact at 0.3-0.7 accumulated points." and it was out of 100, the point system effectively doesn't do anything.
The code would be simply...
<the formula for points for the boss just killed>
totalPoints += pointsThisBoss;
if (totalPoints > Utility.RandomDouble())
{
if (alreadyGivenToSomeoneElse)
{
// no artie
return;
}
if (some other way to fail check)
return;
//give artie, points reset to 0, set alreadyGivenToSomeoneElse to true
}
else
{
// no artie
return;
}
There must be some other way to fail the check with 1.0 points other than someone else getting one on every boss killed over 1.0, otherwise with "Most people receive an artifact at 0.3-0.7 accumulated points.", the guy getting 2.27 would be statistically impossible, I'm guessing that even passing the points check and the nooneelsegotone check, you then only have 50/50 to get one.
Eos said:
It's obvious it's out of 1.0 not 100, otherwise you'd have to kill some crazy amount like 16,000 DF's to have 100 points with the points system, if "Most people receive an artifact at 0.3-0.7 accumulated points." and it was out of 100, the point system effectively doesn't do anything.
The code would be simply...
<the formula for points for the boss just killed>
totalPoints += pointsThisBoss;
if (totalPoints > Utility.RandomDouble())
{
if (alreadyGivenToSomeoneElse)
{
// no artie
return;
}
if (some other way to fail check)
return;
//give artie, points reset to 0, set alreadyGivenToSomeoneElse to true
}
else
{
// no artie
return;
}
There must be some other way to fail the check with 1.0 points other than someone else getting one on every boss killed over 1.0, otherwise with "Most people receive an artifact at 0.3-0.7 accumulated points.", the guy getting 2.27 would be statistically impossible, I'm guessing that even passing the points check and the nooneelsegotone check, you then only have 50/50 to get one.
mytilus
Sorceror
mytilus
Sorceror
Yes that is exactly what Eos said in the quote you posted way above almost word for word...
And it's not a theory its fact based on a mathematical forumula written in the code...
do you also have a theory that 2 + 2 = 6 ??
I bet you do....
kolbycrouch
Knight
And that given the amount of increase in the points kill for kill, it becomes incredibly unlikely not to get one. For example, having to kill 50 bosses to get from 2% chance to 2.5%, you get many separate instances of low chances, eventually making it practically impossible not to get one, way before you reach 100%.
Forum Math Pvp 4tw.
ive gotten probably 70% of my 26 artifacts from dfs
yes you can you start off with a minimal base % chance to get an artifact, after every boss you gain points which increase that percent chance. When you get an artifact you lose these points and start over at the base % chance again.
Chaos_Lord
Sorceror
Since the point system came out I'very gotten 7 artis, all of them from the rooms. The DF give more points than then rooms but its just random chance....
It means that from the 1v1 pvp events you are ranked 2026 and lvl 1 showladder does not actully give you any info on doom or the point system.
Syah
Sorceror
then, we have no chance to see how many points left to get an arty right?
edit: btw that ranking belongs to my tamer having 1585 luck.