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Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
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Flipper
Knight
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
There is no such thing as a soul.
"You" are "you" because your brain tells "you" that. You're just your brain signals and when they die, so do you.
I'm gonna pull a Nietzsche on your asses and say that if you disagree with me you're simply too afraid to accept the truth!
NASTY_DEVILx-hybrid;1315525 said:
There is no such thing as a soul.
"You" are "you" because your brain tells "you" that. You're just your brain signals and when they die, so do you.
I'm gonna pull a Nietzsche on your asses and say that if you disagree with me you're simply too afraid to accept the truth!
djstepanek
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
Those numbers seem pretty high. The numbers don't agree with a large # of people I know, so I wonder who they polled to get the info.
Those numbers seem pretty high. The numbers don't agree with a large # of people I know, so I wonder who they polled to get the info.
Punkers Slave
Knight
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
Duh, Alabama.
Duh, Alabama.
Vigesimation
Wanderer
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
yea i was thinking the same thing... 9 times out of 10 they poll like 5k or less people and say theres somehow a 1.5% possible variation in the poll results... I've never been part of a poll other than the Canadian Census, and they don't ussually asks questions like this...
djstepanek;1315546 said:
yea i was thinking the same thing... 9 times out of 10 they poll like 5k or less people and say theres somehow a 1.5% possible variation in the poll results... I've never been part of a poll other than the Canadian Census, and they don't ussually asks questions like this...
Vigesimation
Wanderer
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
doggystle is the style of devil worshipers, you should know that christians believe only in the missionary position!
Edit: Oh and BTW, please stfu.. and stop posting that useless shit... especially in a somewhat intelligent thread.
hugh jass;1315585 said:
doggystle is the style of devil worshipers, you should know that christians believe only in the missionary position!
Edit: Oh and BTW, please stfu.. and stop posting that useless shit... especially in a somewhat intelligent thread.
NASTY_DEVILx-hybrid
Knight
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
so how do they appear in the first place? your brain grows but the signals cant jsut appear randomly like that? can you sientifically explain that?
Flipper;1315544 said:
so how do they appear in the first place? your brain grows but the signals cant jsut appear randomly like that? can you sientifically explain that?
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Darkness
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
Without Satan, Christians would have no "enemy" to distinguish themselves from.Flipper;1315541 said:
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Darkness
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
There's probably an explanation for that. I.e. once a brain of an unborn child has developed enough and made neural connections, it starts sending out electricity, because that's what brain cells are specialized to do. It took evolution long enough to come up with this idea of how a complex brain for a complex organism has to work. However, I am no expert in that areaNASTY_DEVILx-hybrid;1315597 said:
zlatan fulgere
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
Take a look at religion's role throughout history. I'm no history major but it seems like a way to explain what science has not yet explained. Has it also not been used by those in power to control those not in power?
Consider this also. If I believe in a god, does my life not change? Do I not live differently, feel better, gain a new purpose in life and become more open to evidence of god's existence? Would those effects of faith happen regardless of the actual existence of a higher power?
I really wish I could believe in a god. Beyond all the arguments over evidence, there's one question I have, "Why"? In the case of christianity, why would god care to bother making this world and the universe in the first place? Why would he create it with a built-in downfall for mankind that would absolutely be triggered by time and probability. Why would he bother sacrificing for us to give us a shot at overcoming that downfall? If he is all powerful, evil is his enemy and he wants us in heaven with him, why bother with this whole circus to end up with only marginal results?
As for that statistic, some religious folks will tell you that a large portion of those claiming a belief in god do not have a technically correct saving faith. There is also the statistic of how many young people are bound to stick with the faith of their parents (I don't recall the exact number though). My point with that is even if god did exist, what does someone's claim that they believe in god really mean to themselves, god and others.
Take a look at religion's role throughout history. I'm no history major but it seems like a way to explain what science has not yet explained. Has it also not been used by those in power to control those not in power?
Consider this also. If I believe in a god, does my life not change? Do I not live differently, feel better, gain a new purpose in life and become more open to evidence of god's existence? Would those effects of faith happen regardless of the actual existence of a higher power?
I really wish I could believe in a god. Beyond all the arguments over evidence, there's one question I have, "Why"? In the case of christianity, why would god care to bother making this world and the universe in the first place? Why would he create it with a built-in downfall for mankind that would absolutely be triggered by time and probability. Why would he bother sacrificing for us to give us a shot at overcoming that downfall? If he is all powerful, evil is his enemy and he wants us in heaven with him, why bother with this whole circus to end up with only marginal results?
As for that statistic, some religious folks will tell you that a large portion of those claiming a belief in god do not have a technically correct saving faith. There is also the statistic of how many young people are bound to stick with the faith of their parents (I don't recall the exact number though). My point with that is even if god did exist, what does someone's claim that they believe in god really mean to themselves, god and others.
Punkers Slave
Knight
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
Oldest forum of control, evar, besides fear. Oh wait, various religions use fear to control the sheep.
Meh :tup:
Vastar;1316193 said:
Oldest forum of control, evar, besides fear. Oh wait, various religions use fear to control the sheep.
Meh :tup:
Veritas WKD
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
But why should religion use fear? The Bible states clearly that we were put here on earth to form a loving relationship with God. We were given the ability to sin. In John 3:16-17:
"16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
Does that not seem like something a loving God would do? A few years back I used to look down on people with religion. I saw it as a crutch for the weak to lean on when times got tough. I have since then become a Christian and find myself walking a harder path than I ever did before. I deal with stuggle far more often. The life of a Christian is a life of mockery and persecution even today.
To everyone who does not believe in god: I will keep you in my prayers wether you like it or not. If you are looking for things to read or study about the life and or beliefes of Christians feel free to send me messages and whatnot. I am always more than happy discuss with anyone (in a civilized manner) topics of my own faith and the teachings of the church I attend.
For those of you with a bible here are a few of my favorite verses.
Matthew 5:13-16
Psalms 7:10
Philippians 4:13
Punkers Slave;1316199 said:
But why should religion use fear? The Bible states clearly that we were put here on earth to form a loving relationship with God. We were given the ability to sin. In John 3:16-17:
"16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
Does that not seem like something a loving God would do? A few years back I used to look down on people with religion. I saw it as a crutch for the weak to lean on when times got tough. I have since then become a Christian and find myself walking a harder path than I ever did before. I deal with stuggle far more often. The life of a Christian is a life of mockery and persecution even today.
To everyone who does not believe in god: I will keep you in my prayers wether you like it or not. If you are looking for things to read or study about the life and or beliefes of Christians feel free to send me messages and whatnot. I am always more than happy discuss with anyone (in a civilized manner) topics of my own faith and the teachings of the church I attend.
For those of you with a bible here are a few of my favorite verses.
Matthew 5:13-16
Psalms 7:10
Philippians 4:13
Mythia Jhengli
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
:tup: I agree with your drunken words though they smell like alcohol. ;<r33n;1314651 said:
djstepanek
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
A big part of religion is fear.
If you don't honor the god or gods you go to hell, you will bring plagues, etc...
I don't disagree with the core messages of religions which is generally loving, respecting, and being helpful to our fellow man. To have a family that believes in a religion and supports these ideas is a wonderful thing, children are more likely to follow the ideas later in life which is superb. But you don't have to be religious to be a kind person. Raised with atheists can lead to a "good" person as well with the same morals in life.
My main gripes with religion are #1 how people exploit it to start shit, #2 take the messages way to literally(if you still believe that Adam and Eve just popped out of the ground, well...), #3 the fear that is created to embed the ideals, and #4 I don't like the church (religion is fine, the church is bad).
A big part of religion is fear.
If you don't honor the god or gods you go to hell, you will bring plagues, etc...
I don't disagree with the core messages of religions which is generally loving, respecting, and being helpful to our fellow man. To have a family that believes in a religion and supports these ideas is a wonderful thing, children are more likely to follow the ideas later in life which is superb. But you don't have to be religious to be a kind person. Raised with atheists can lead to a "good" person as well with the same morals in life.
My main gripes with religion are #1 how people exploit it to start shit, #2 take the messages way to literally(if you still believe that Adam and Eve just popped out of the ground, well...), #3 the fear that is created to embed the ideals, and #4 I don't like the church (religion is fine, the church is bad).
Veritas WKD
Sorceror
Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
In Genesis it clearly states that Adam was greated first and after a while God decided to make him company. When Adam was asleep God took one of his ribs and created Eve from that.
djstepanek;1316244 said:
In Genesis it clearly states that Adam was greated first and after a while God decided to make him company. When Adam was asleep God took one of his ribs and created Eve from that.
djstepanek
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Re: Newsweek poll: Americans believe in God, reject evolution
And if you still believe that, you are taking the Bible way to literally.
Veritas WKD;1316246 said:
And if you still believe that, you are taking the Bible way to literally.
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