Reign Flame
Knight
I couldn't decide which one to pick for this.
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Bernie Sanders
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amtothepm
Knight
Cynical Machine
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BrandonMK
Sorceror
Please elaborate.
Outkast KBR
Traveler
This does go to show just how truly ignorant you are. Bernie Sander is the equivalent of your high school student president, makes 200490409 promise he knows he can't keep or make happen. Says what you entitled kids want to hear, how your lazy ass DESERVES EVERYTHING. Then when he fails you will make excuses for him.
Does this sound familiar?
BrandonMK
Sorceror
Please give me examples. Please tell me how your views differ from those of Mr. Sanders. I'd appreciate it if you kept it concise and please try to avoid spewing the vitriol seen on Fox News.
Do you truly feel a republican president will keep whatever promises they make?
a Bad Religion
Page
Yah Bush right before he turned the biggest surplus in US history into the largest deficit, cut trillions from his own "no child left behind act", started a war leaving two countries physically in shambles, and a third (the US) in economic recession with a growing unemplyment rate.
Outkast KBR
Traveler
Do you truly feel a man that promises everything under the sun to you will keep those promises? Do you think TuPac will rise from the dead and finance all of these idea's that you/him think are great ideas? Face it, you got taken and made a fool of this last election. This country needs a strong leader and right now even Hillary is stronger and has better chance than Bernie Sanders. Here you go talking about Fox News, I don't watch tv all that much but I can already tell your a fair weather fan. This must be the cool thing at your school.
But lets start here at Bernies Ideas!
1. Time for big thinking and new ideas :
oh yea this is a real game changer right here. He's like 80 years old, I don't think new Ideas are his thing.
2. America’s problems are worse than ever:
What are our problems exactly? Our problems are that you dont want to pay your debts and want everything to be free and handed to you just like your parents gave you everything. You obviously never had to work for anything.
No thanks I'll pay my own way.
3. Economic inequality is the top issue: why dont you have a original idea, instead of stop being jealous of everyone who has made it.
Instead you think shit should be taken from people who have earned it and handed to you.
4. The middle class is being destroyed: Well this is news.
Maybe it's because kids DON'T WANT TO WORK. They want it given to them.
5. Poverty is worse than is acknowledged:
People do not want to work, when food stamps and social programs will pay them just enough to get by. I see this every day, you would if you ever leave your parents umbrella.
6. The country needs a real jobs program:
This has been tried before, it was a failure. People are lazy and you should read a history book.
http://fee.org/freeman/fdrs-folly-how-roosevelt-and-his-new-deal-prolonged-the-great-depression/
7. Raise the minimum wage and fight for living wages.
You are already seeing MASSIVE moves to automated jobs because it's no longer profitable to have someone paid 20$ per hour to make a fucking mcdonalds hamburger. Who are you going to blame when your 1$ menu goes to 4$.
8. Close the pay equity gap for women:
This will always be a crutch for women, how about you be aggressive and move up the ladder instead on blaming everything on your sex.
9. Provide basic government healthcare for all:
I thought this was already done? I mean not only do you have obamacare with incredibly high premiums and deductibles ( which you were lied to ).
10. Expand Social Security and other safety nets:
Again, the system is based off what you paid into, get a job.
11. College and universities must be free:
This is absolutely absurd, how about you NOT GO to a 20k a semester school for a fucking 30k a year art degree.
12. The rich must pay fair taxes.
Flat Tax, but bernie doesn't support that. He thinks he can run the irs better than they can.
13. Break up the largest financial institutions:
Blame Bill Clinton for this, he's one of your beloved democrats. Again learn history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall:_Aftermath_of_repeal
14. No more bad international trade agreements:
This is the only thing I agree with, if you want to import shit fuck you and pay taxes.
15. Move away from carbon-based energy:
And drive us into a unthinkable energy crisis but spending more money and taking land from people to make solar and wind work. Which still would be unable to support the country at our rate.
16. Climate change must be addressed:
Get the fuck out of here, maybe you should change the name of it a few more times and people will hop back on this train.
17. The US must not fight endless wars:
yea we should just defeat our enemies MAGICALLY, worked great for Obama. Who fucked iraq by leaving to make your cry baby ass happy.
18. Americans can’t afford to be apathetic:
They did vote, they got obama in office. They got screwed.
19. Democracy reform starts with the plutocrats: If these people are buying elections, how come obama did 2 terms?
20. The Supreme Court must be changed:
I dont agree with every decision, but fuck it lets change something that works? Get outa here bro.
But lets start here at Bernies Ideas!
1. Time for big thinking and new ideas :
oh yea this is a real game changer right here. He's like 80 years old, I don't think new Ideas are his thing.
2. America’s problems are worse than ever:
What are our problems exactly? Our problems are that you dont want to pay your debts and want everything to be free and handed to you just like your parents gave you everything. You obviously never had to work for anything.
No thanks I'll pay my own way.
3. Economic inequality is the top issue: why dont you have a original idea, instead of stop being jealous of everyone who has made it.
Instead you think shit should be taken from people who have earned it and handed to you.
4. The middle class is being destroyed: Well this is news.
Maybe it's because kids DON'T WANT TO WORK. They want it given to them.
5. Poverty is worse than is acknowledged:
People do not want to work, when food stamps and social programs will pay them just enough to get by. I see this every day, you would if you ever leave your parents umbrella.
6. The country needs a real jobs program:
This has been tried before, it was a failure. People are lazy and you should read a history book.
http://fee.org/freeman/fdrs-folly-how-roosevelt-and-his-new-deal-prolonged-the-great-depression/
7. Raise the minimum wage and fight for living wages.
You are already seeing MASSIVE moves to automated jobs because it's no longer profitable to have someone paid 20$ per hour to make a fucking mcdonalds hamburger. Who are you going to blame when your 1$ menu goes to 4$.
8. Close the pay equity gap for women:
This will always be a crutch for women, how about you be aggressive and move up the ladder instead on blaming everything on your sex.
9. Provide basic government healthcare for all:
I thought this was already done? I mean not only do you have obamacare with incredibly high premiums and deductibles ( which you were lied to ).
10. Expand Social Security and other safety nets:
Again, the system is based off what you paid into, get a job.
11. College and universities must be free:
This is absolutely absurd, how about you NOT GO to a 20k a semester school for a fucking 30k a year art degree.
12. The rich must pay fair taxes.
Flat Tax, but bernie doesn't support that. He thinks he can run the irs better than they can.
13. Break up the largest financial institutions:
Blame Bill Clinton for this, he's one of your beloved democrats. Again learn history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall:_Aftermath_of_repeal
14. No more bad international trade agreements:
This is the only thing I agree with, if you want to import shit fuck you and pay taxes.
15. Move away from carbon-based energy:
And drive us into a unthinkable energy crisis but spending more money and taking land from people to make solar and wind work. Which still would be unable to support the country at our rate.
16. Climate change must be addressed:
Get the fuck out of here, maybe you should change the name of it a few more times and people will hop back on this train.
17. The US must not fight endless wars:
yea we should just defeat our enemies MAGICALLY, worked great for Obama. Who fucked iraq by leaving to make your cry baby ass happy.
18. Americans can’t afford to be apathetic:
They did vote, they got obama in office. They got screwed.
19. Democracy reform starts with the plutocrats: If these people are buying elections, how come obama did 2 terms?
20. The Supreme Court must be changed:
I dont agree with every decision, but fuck it lets change something that works? Get outa here bro.
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Outkast KBR
Traveler
You do realize that's a budget surplus right? IT'S A YEARLY BUDGET. You apparently are confusing a budget surplus with a national debt. And of course the budget will be high during a war time. You blame bush but yet you fail to mention CONGRESS voted on Iraq/Afghanistan. But yet you blame Bush like a good kid who has no idea about anything. BTW, Obama promised to cut spending and get that budget under control and what did he do with it? Yep it's higher than ever.
You failed to mention Obama didn't have any votes on his intervention during the arab sprint which essentially destabilized more than 2 countries? How about that Syria intervention.
You kids are blind, Ignorant and know nothing of real struggles.
Boomshakalaka
Squire
i dont want anything handed to me
having said that, I'd have fun watching major corporations pay larger taxes and be penalized like criminals for going overseas to avoid taxes and hurt the american economy. Even if the taxes they paid didn't go to anything useful, their tears would be so salty.
having said that, I'd have fun watching major corporations pay larger taxes and be penalized like criminals for going overseas to avoid taxes and hurt the american economy. Even if the taxes they paid didn't go to anything useful, their tears would be so salty.
Vizeroth
Sorceror
Outkast, does it really make sense for you to be so confident in your opinions? You obviously aren't a reader, which means you very likely lack the research skills necessary to create well-informed ideas. What makes you think your positions are correct if you can't fact-check, you can't/don't look into counterarguments, and you're having your ideas spoon-fed to you?
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Boomshakalaka
Squire
in terms of politics, why does one need to fact check their opinions? Literally, when has that ever been a deciding point in a political debate or process?
get that strawman bullshit outta here, jizzeroth
get that strawman bullshit outta here, jizzeroth
Vizeroth
Sorceror
You're asking me why someone should know what they're talking about before vomiting up a strong opinion about a matter of science, economics, or ethics? We're not talking about someone's favorite color or their taste in food, we're talking about how the world works and how it can be improved, so of course it matters that we have as great an understanding as possible before coming to conclusions. We both know that Outkast would be shredded to pieces on every single issue he brought up, because he's doing little more than parroting the stances of the political party that he's been indoctrinated to follow. Such opinions have no value.
And where's the straw man, my plebeian friend? I didn't attempt to challenge his arguments, let alone create a faux version of them to defeat. Learn terms before using them.
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Boomshakalaka
Squire
I said in politics, and you have yet to prove my statement invalid.
Vizeroth
Sorceror
...What exactly do you think politics is about?