I’ve already explained the tendency of the rate of profit to fall and the natural exploitation of workers under a capitalist system that peruses profit for the sake of profit. If you are going to state your initial arguments again and again instead of responding to what I am saying then I have no time for you. And if economic development and the growth of wealth of the businesses owners is so wonderful then why, in a world of exponential economic development, are so many cuts being made in so many countries right now? Why Greece? Why Spain? Why the UK? Why the States?
It’d be nice if you could explain why you’re saying what I’m saying isn’t true. Try using some reasoning instead of just a blanket statement. Try googling dead labour and look for scholarly articles containing those words. Dead labour is labour that isn’t living, that isn’t human labour: Machinery. And again, what the fuck is the point in economic development if it doesn’t protect human rights and the environment THAT OF COURSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTIRELY DEPENDS ON.
Explain where you think trickle down and trickle up should be used. You say they are good for different situations but give no reasoning.
I’ve already discussed why this is the case and would go further into that discussion, but I don’t think there’s a lot of point if you’re going to ignore what I say and just re-state your initial argument. Socialism isn’t about giving everybody everything and everybody being exactly the same. You can still contribute to the world differentially, there will still be a division of labour too. “Being determines consciousness” – under a socialist world after a revolution, maybe after a generation or two people would take pride in their labour, free from exploitation, and the society they serve and are served by. What motivation is there to work under capitalist system? So many people in the UK choose not to work because it is so shit. People only work under capitalism because they are forced to be exploited or otherwise starve. Is that a nice way to do things? When it is capitalism itself that makes labour soul-destroying?
Economic development is NOT correlated with the standard of life. Look at the UK and the US. People are getting unhappier by the minute. One quarter of people in the UK could be clinically diagnosed with a mental disorder, and another quarter on the brink there-of. Yet GDP is still exponentially growing. Even those who are rich are not happy. Read a book called ‘Affluenza’.
It’s not a “few people” that are being hurt by the system. It’s a “few people” that are benefiting from the system. And it’s not the “vast majority of people” that are benefiting from the system, it is the “vast majority of people” whose lives are made a misery by it. That’s an incredibly absurd and blinkered view of the world, right there. Look at the third world, look at poverty in our own developed countries, and look at how around 1% of the world’s population own the majority of it’s wealth. How is that a fair system?
Yes, capital is invested in ‘dead’ labour, which causes the rate of profit to have a tendency to fall, which the genesis of the exploitation of workers, along with the aim of capitalism being the persuit of profit for the sake of profit, means that workers do not benefit from economic growth. How many of the world’s population own stock in corporations? Do tell. And what good does that do them, anyway?
You really think the capitalists at the top of corporations work fairly and are treated justly? Where are the murder trials for the capitalists who made money from Agent Orange? When are the leaders of BP being put on trial for their crimes? When are heads of companies such as Nestlé and Coca Cola going to be imprisoned? Even if a company that dearly cared for its stake-holders and wanted to make sweet love to them still doesn’t give a damn about the common man.
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