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Poll for permanent TOT system
- Thread starter Kallitcha
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Hey.. at least we get tots once in a while.
lDedric
Page
tots are fun, first and foremost they are an "event"
Now if your worried about new players let's take a look shall we.
My account is 118 days old.
IN bank over all accounts (yes I run 4 accounts): roughly 10 mil
Samp gear nearly done just need to burn hammers for weapons including totem, near all 70's resists, 45 HCI,15 DCI (I use heart of the lion), 110 DI
Mage gear is pratically complete only missing arcane shield. all 70 resists 100% LRC, 45 lmc, 48 SDI, MR 5
Now let's look at assets
3 castles: (sold 1 with gold got my totem)
7 keeps: (Gave away most of them to guildies so when I ask if anyone wants a keep nobody in my guild does)
ML arties: I have so many I give them away, at least till cub
stealable arties and deco: I have so many of these I am begging my guildies to come take them away....
The next time someone says it's too hard to start and play here are simply lazy and want to be given things. These are the players we loose! Anyone who puts the effort in and gains the rewards "themselves" gives them a feeling of accomplishment and will continue to play, combine that with getting involved with a guild and playing with people....
If you take away the fun of getting things, either alone or with a group of friends, by basically handing them out you remove all the fun of playing at all.
Lastly
Keeping a tight reign on what is available is what helps an economy
Look at Heartwood fletching kits when the pub hit everyone was doing them. Some were selling some were buying, but the prices stabilized around 2kk each for a few weeks and are still falling, last I saw they were going for 1kk each. the reason ltots are worth something is because of their limited availability, so leave it be.
Now if your worried about new players let's take a look shall we.
My account is 118 days old.
IN bank over all accounts (yes I run 4 accounts): roughly 10 mil
Samp gear nearly done just need to burn hammers for weapons including totem, near all 70's resists, 45 HCI,15 DCI (I use heart of the lion), 110 DI
Mage gear is pratically complete only missing arcane shield. all 70 resists 100% LRC, 45 lmc, 48 SDI, MR 5
Now let's look at assets
3 castles: (sold 1 with gold got my totem)
7 keeps: (Gave away most of them to guildies so when I ask if anyone wants a keep nobody in my guild does)
ML arties: I have so many I give them away, at least till cub
stealable arties and deco: I have so many of these I am begging my guildies to come take them away....
The next time someone says it's too hard to start and play here are simply lazy and want to be given things. These are the players we loose! Anyone who puts the effort in and gains the rewards "themselves" gives them a feeling of accomplishment and will continue to play, combine that with getting involved with a guild and playing with people....
If you take away the fun of getting things, either alone or with a group of friends, by basically handing them out you remove all the fun of playing at all.
Lastly
Keeping a tight reign on what is available is what helps an economy
Look at Heartwood fletching kits when the pub hit everyone was doing them. Some were selling some were buying, but the prices stabilized around 2kk each for a few weeks and are still falling, last I saw they were going for 1kk each. the reason ltots are worth something is because of their limited availability, so leave it be.
Kallitcha
Squire
I think people are missing what I'm asking for. I would like a Reduce drop chance, maybe drops similar to doom drop rates (maybe even less) but have it on all the time. During special events crank it up to a higher.
This will place a consistent flow of tots into the economy, yet still preserving their value. Doing this balances economy versus shocking the economy with sudden influxes of high end gear followed by dry spells of high end gear. Of its a balanced economy you want, then consistency is what you should have.
Edit added: If people are gold rushing on the tots because there limited time availability, they aren't out collecting other items ie leather, ore, artifacts, other things that support the economy. If it were consistent yet limited steady drop. The other aspects of the economy would stay stable along with a stable tot value.
This will place a consistent flow of tots into the economy, yet still preserving their value. Doing this balances economy versus shocking the economy with sudden influxes of high end gear followed by dry spells of high end gear. Of its a balanced economy you want, then consistency is what you should have.
Edit added: If people are gold rushing on the tots because there limited time availability, they aren't out collecting other items ie leather, ore, artifacts, other things that support the economy. If it were consistent yet limited steady drop. The other aspects of the economy would stay stable along with a stable tot value.
Grezz GreenWood
Sorceror
I think we understand what you're asking for, we just don't agree.
I guess you weren't here when they disappeared for years... trust me we're pretty happy to just have them temporarily turned on every now and then.
I guess you weren't here when they disappeared for years... trust me we're pretty happy to just have them temporarily turned on every now and then.
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Jay-Renai Nyleve [SHS]
Sorceror
I think the poll speaks volumes on how "we" all feel on the subject.
Kallitcha
Squire
I not once asked for a guarantee drop, I actually asked for the drop rate to be reduced.
I wasn't on demise, but I was on osi. There actually a poll on stratics showed the server supported what I'm asking for... Reduced chance for drop, rather than completely shutting it off. Osi responded with shutting it off. With in 6 months of them shutting it down their server population was 50%. I know because that's when they started cutting gm's.
There's a lot of players who never read posts here, and those numbers could sway just as fast...
Rubin Sticks
Sorceror
At my leisure, I spent the time I had spare to gather TiT's. It's Dicks like you "Kallitcha" that make the last week pointless.
MB
Knight
Rubin Sticks
Sorceror
*Grins* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JOgtGxJSMM *dances*
Rubin Sticks
Sorceror
I''m a 5 year old tammy.
Rubin Sticks
Sorceror
Make me change my ways.
Kallitcha
Squire
Little off topic you think. I'm not asking for high acute drops... Actually the opposite. Truth is what I'm suggesting is an all the time drop chance, but say 1 to 5% (or less) of the chance you get when they have it active during events. In other words you could try farming all day and may or may not get that drop. Result would be still a rare chance at a drop. Something like if you were able to farm 100 of the Ltots during the event, same amount of time might yield 1 Ltot.
It would have such a minor effect on prices, I bet you wouldn't even notice it. It would give someone who really enjoys hunting the monsters in tok the ability to get an occasional boost. It would give someone who really wants a specific artifact, the option to go out and earn it themselves.
So please stop turning this post in to a ridiculous give me give me...