does eval int effect poison spell damage?

[Ices]

Poison strength requires both eval and poisoning.

You won't DP with the poison spell unless you have both GM poisoning and GM eval.

[aemneuspeed]

I think what the guy above is says is correct, I've read somewhere's but i cannot find it, that to cast deadly poison it depends on your poison skill and eval.

Also, if you use blade spirits and you have gm poisoning your blade spirits will cast a higher degree of poison when it hits the target.

In the past I've used a Scribe/Nox Mage and farmed titans/ice fiends/ daemons/artic ogre lords, and never had a real problem with any of them.

Sometimes blade spirits will get dispelled, but most the times the spell casters will try and cure the poison before they try and dispel.

It could work and it would be a fun way to pvm besides just all kill.....wait....loot haha.

[Stides]

Originally Posted by Ices

Poison strength requires both eval and poisoning.

You won't DP with the poison spell unless you have both GM poisoning and GM eval.

thats bullshit. Its magery + poisoning = Deadly poison.

Not eval.

[Shino90]

Yeah, Eval Int definitely doesn't affect the Poison spell or Blade Spirits.

[mahhand]

Well, I only just started playing around with my build, here is what I have learned so far with about 30 min of farming. Keep in mind I am new to provoking mobs and am still trying to get the hang of it.

First, and this came as quite a shock to me, is that once you provoke one mob on to another, they WILL stop fighting. I was always under the impression that if you got them to fight, it would be a grunge match to the death. This has not been the case. Since provoking hard mobs is bad enough, I am concerned that it won't be really worth the effort. We will see with more testing

Discorance is sorta fun, gonna see if it really is needed. My build really needs med though so either resist or discord will have to go, just not sure which one.

The gm poison works as I thought it would. Great for getting mobs down on there health. The blade spirts spell becomes even more deadly as well.

[Ices]

You're right, I was wrong. Only Magery and poisoning affect the strength of your poison spell.

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[mahhand]

Wanted to post more results on my bard/ nox build.

Its a lot more fun then my tamer, that is for sure. It also is more dangrous and has more risk.

The poison spell with gm magerey and gm poison is quite deadly. A common tactic I use to finish off mobs or to kill mobs that are solo is just to peace them, then I walk up next to them and put a poison spell down on them. With gm poison, some mobs that are immune to lower grades of poison are still effected by the greater and deadly poison from my casting. Of course its even more effective to just drop a blade spirts down on them. A single blade spirit cast from me will kill a peaced artic ogrelord. Same for an ice deamon. Dragons seem to auto dispel blade spirts, even while peaced, so I just poison them, they drop really fast. Of course you have to keep them peaced or they will cure themselves. Other casting mobs will consaintly try to recure themselves and because of this, usally won't be able to dispel the bladespirt.

Provoke used refreshes faster then peacemaking, this is a welcome change.

Discordance is sorta boring. I have enjoyed using it some to equal out the damage output of one creature to catch up on keeping them at about the same health. The only problem is that keeping it is costing me meditation, and it realllly sucks not having med. Of course I could ditch my gm resist but I have found that trying to provoke mobs means you get nuked quite a bit and I think I will gimp my build if I strip my resist. I am gonna try using discord on some lords of the abyss to see if it really makes it easyer to provoke and peace them, as peeps say it does. Might make it worth it. Barding requires being able to hide, or cast inviso a lot, and not having points for med or hiding is a challange. Of course, that is what taking poison to gm has cost me, but I feel gm poison is very worth having with a bard/peacer/provoker.

Some its coming down to ditching either discordance, resist spells, or maybe even peacemaking (highly dought it, need peace), for meditation. Not sure still, will post what I do and how it plays out here. Not sure but might be able to macro discordance so if I can, most likely ditch it and see how it plays out.

Havnt tried using a firehorn yet, gonna do that before I loose my 4 way gm bard skils.

Post your comments here

[girtrute]

Dont use discord and take med. discord only lowers stats it doesnt make them any easier to peace or provoke. but i know it used to be easier to peace and provoke when there health is beat out of them and gm instruments spose to give 15% betetr chance not sure if that take affects here. but they realy made provocation suck on here,they need to iether speed up the time to reuse skill or make it like it was around 98 on osi were u could provoke dragons at only 65 provocation.
also you can drop a fire field on the monster after u poison so they wont cure or dispell blade spirit or summoned creatures. though the fire field will hit anything red or grey in it.

[mahhand]

Well I dropped discordance and took med and this build is much, much better. Having mana is sooooo important. This allows me to poisoned mobs, ones fighting each other and peaced ones as well. I have found this build works quite effectily, almost as well as my tamer. No pets is really nice as well and frankly more enjoyable to play imho.

I will end in concluding that trading eval int for gm poison is quite and effective switch for a bard, and well worth it if used right