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Update March 28, 2015 - Monstrous Interred Grizzle! / SW
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Rayden
Sorceror
First of all, thank you very much for fixing that
Well, how about we don't try to fight to keep the exploits that benefits ourselves and instead of that, we try to fight for the things that are fair and reasonable?
I Totally agree with the ZERO taming part. We shouldn't be able to raid strong pets with ZERO taming skill. That is an exploit. That shouldn't be able to work. But please don't try to use an exploit as an excuse to another one. The fair thing to fight for is: WE NEED TO PUT AN END TO ALL SKILL EXPLOITS. That includes: taming EXPLOIT, necromancy EXPLOIT and inscription EXPLOIT.
- Spellweaving changes (as seen on the Test Center):
- Summon fey/fiend now costs mana per summon.
- Corrected summoned feys/fiends (reduced hits and mana, greatly reduced magery).
- (Custom) Players will obtain a 1-minute immunity to the Essence of Wind debuff when it expires naturally
Well, how about we don't try to fight to keep the exploits that benefits ourselves and instead of that, we try to fight for the things that are fair and reasonable?
I Totally agree with the ZERO taming part. We shouldn't be able to raid strong pets with ZERO taming skill. That is an exploit. That shouldn't be able to work. But please don't try to use an exploit as an excuse to another one. The fair thing to fight for is: WE NEED TO PUT AN END TO ALL SKILL EXPLOITS. That includes: taming EXPLOIT, necromancy EXPLOIT and inscription EXPLOIT.
Necrodog
Page
Even if the exploit is the only thing keeping the game BALANCED?
If we were only able to ride Ethereal Mounts, Horses, Grizzled Mares, and Swamp Dragons, Bolas would be broken even worse than they are right now. As of right now Bolas completely break dismounting techniques of any other means (Melee and Archer Dismounts), since Bolas can be thrown by ANY person with NO skill, stat, or modification requirements, and have a 100% chance to hit if in range.
I hardly think it is fair for a Dexxer to be able to miss 3-4 times in a row with 45 hci, but a Mage with zero combat skill and zero hci can hit you EVERY TIME with a bola, even if you have 120 defensive skill and capped dci.
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Indika
Sorceror
If you cant kill a sampire on ANY pvp template... Then I have nothing to say... Sampire doesn't have bandage. Why would you EVER lose to a sampire in a raid?
I don't care what other people play. Ever heard of a Straw Man Fallacy?
That is incorrect and any veteran will confirm that for you. I don't have to ask GM's, I played OSI for myself. You can log on there right now and see if your pet will follow you. Be my guest.
Last several times I met you on the field I killed you and took your head. I'm not even going to go there with you.
Necrodog
Page
To do that they would have to fix the casting, which will ever happen... which is why no one can use the, "It's OSI-Accurate" argument, or the, "It should be like it is on OSI, no questions asked" argument. If the GMs want a shard with custom features, like very fast casting, they must balance things according to the mechanics of THIS shard, not according to a different shard's mechanics.
Rayden
Sorceror
I agree with you necrodog, bolas are broken. But again, instead of fightning for the exploit that allows us to play our dexxers (I play an ancher myself), I rather vote to remove that exploit and then try to bring some reason into admins minds and convince them to nerf bolas a little.
Eveybody knows that if that depended on me, bolas would be removed from the game completely. That would make dismounters (melee and ranged) far more valuables. I would make like UO
reams where the melee dismount is more powerful than the ranged dismount (its way more FUN). But hey, that's not the case here. What would happen is the disabling that exploit would make people go to factions in order to get a war horse, and demise would step into a new era of PvP (far better one, IMO)
royal kapero2
Sorceror
I'm not suprised. Your habit of smoking weed with everyone on skype cam killed your logic perceptions.
sk8nomad
Sorceror
sounds like we have a clinical research professional here
Rayden
Sorceror
Invisible potions, trap pouches, protection scrolls + teleport scrolls, poison potions, help from team mates.
Fielding is on UO since the beggining of the times, my advice is to get over it.
MadeInQuebec
Forum Member of the Year 2008
Bola's are wrong because when you are running away to save your life and your insurance money, you get knocked of your mount, and get killed.
Then you lose your insurance money, and your UO day is ruined!!
/sarcasm
Jokes aside, everyone will find something that is not good enough for them, everyone will find something that is too good for the others. That's just the way it is. This game will never be balanced, and everyone needs to take a chill pill and just take it for what it is. This game's 18 years old ffs.
I guess I should send an email to Nintendo so that they nerf the Star from Mario Bros, man that shit's overpowered too!
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Ortiz
Sorceror
You can throw a bola on a char with 0 skill points and dismount someone every single time.
Rayden
Sorceror
IMO, What's wrong with bolas:
That's not the point, at all. Money means nothing to me and to most players who PvP aswell.
But some people just care about winning. Of course I used bolas many times, made mils of insurance because of them. Jesus, my team has a player known for his infinite stack of bolas and that for sure helped us winning many fights. Of course they benefit me as well.
But I don't only care about winning. How I am winning also matter. I care about game play, mostly. And the game play I experienced on other shards where bolas were not the main way to dismount a person was way better than what I experience here, doesn't matter if I'm in the winning side or the losing one.
I am just trying to be constructive and putting a light on some unbalanced things that exist in game. I try to be as neutral as possible in my suggestions. You can read my posts and you will find many suggestions that would make the life of my PvPer's harder, but would be better for the game it self.
- no skill required,
- no delay required before throwing it,
- no delay between bolas,
- no chance to miss.
That's not the point, at all. Money means nothing to me and to most players who PvP aswell.
But some people just care about winning. Of course I used bolas many times, made mils of insurance because of them. Jesus, my team has a player known for his infinite stack of bolas and that for sure helped us winning many fights. Of course they benefit me as well.
But I don't only care about winning. How I am winning also matter. I care about game play, mostly. And the game play I experienced on other shards where bolas were not the main way to dismount a person was way better than what I experience here, doesn't matter if I'm in the winning side or the losing one.
I am just trying to be constructive and putting a light on some unbalanced things that exist in game. I try to be as neutral as possible in my suggestions. You can read my posts and you will find many suggestions that would make the life of my PvPer's harder, but would be better for the game it self.
MadeInQuebec
Forum Member of the Year 2008
I guess you missed the sarcasm part
Regardless, perhaps i'm out of date but I think I remeber Tactics being necessary to throw a bola, I could be wrong tho.
Regardless, perhaps i'm out of date but I think I remeber Tactics being necessary to throw a bola, I could be wrong tho.
kolbycrouch
Knight
Whats wrong with bola's is an incorrect timer for how long it lasts, and you can just keep getting chain bola'd which might be correct, but is still broke.
Rayden
Sorceror
Mister Pink
Squire
You would have to fix bolas in the same patch as mounts not following without taming. Ie the problems Rayden pointed out.
I personally like how the current system is. I don't care if it's "broken" and like how mounts work and bolas work. It will alter pvp when both are "fixed", and imo it won't be for the better. pure mages/ necro mages will be weaker as a result. Tactics/mages, melee will become even stronger. This screws the new player because it's tough as hell to field a viable tactics mage. Do you think people are going to need as many bonding deeds from the donation store if this is changed? Yeah, exactly.
The essence of wind is a good fix, as is pixies no longer being ungodly strong.
I would be ok with the sampires keeping their glitch. It doesn't hurt anything.
- no skill required,
- no delay required before throwing it,
- no delay between bolas,
- no chance to miss.
I personally like how the current system is. I don't care if it's "broken" and like how mounts work and bolas work. It will alter pvp when both are "fixed", and imo it won't be for the better. pure mages/ necro mages will be weaker as a result. Tactics/mages, melee will become even stronger. This screws the new player because it's tough as hell to field a viable tactics mage. Do you think people are going to need as many bonding deeds from the donation store if this is changed? Yeah, exactly.
The essence of wind is a good fix, as is pixies no longer being ungodly strong.
I would be ok with the sampires keeping their glitch. It doesn't hurt anything.
