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Holy shit is this for real?

Neppg

Sorceror


What the fuck guys?

I never knew you guys had it THAT bad in the US :(

/american_dream
 

Armistices

Sorceror
Yes, healthcare costs have been for quite some time now the #1 cause for bankruptcy in the states. It really sucks too because even if you have insurance and you get multiple health issues in a row over a 2-3 year period you're just screwed because you'll have long since maxed out your insurance policy...Its a sadly common story among the elderly who get 3 or 4 heart attacks or strokes or w/e in a row and then even though they've worked their entire lives, saved every penny they ever gotten, and had fairly good insurance they wind up being unable to ever retire and are stuck in massive insurmountable debt. Of course as you know our current President promised prior to his being elected that a large portion of his efforts as President would be put forth toward creating a single payer healthcare plan for the people of the U.S. And in fact many Americans voted for Obama for the sole reason that he would get us an inexpensive single payer healthcare plan that would accept those with pre-existing conditions. Of course Obama did not do this, and instead basically created a giant bailout for health insurance companies...
 
Hell yeah man, I hit a cow on a highway 11 years ago and it cost me 200k for just like 8 hours in the hospital. They didn't do anything much other than run tests and give me stitches. Luckily the farmer had to pay all of it since his fence was down for days and he never fixed it even after the police told him too.

Even though it was all being paid for there was like a two month period after I was at hospital, before we got the stuff figured out for the farmer to pay it, in those 2 months I recieved soooo many collection calls. They threaten the shit out of you, call you names, tell you to go make your parents pay your bill, anything and everything nasty they could say, they say.

I was luckily getting it paid for..

Bottom line, you either take your chances and never go to the hospital. Or you go and pay it off the rest of your life.
 
My gf had a appenticitis like 6 months ago. She stayed 2 or 3 days at the hospital, then she left.. no bills! Well we live in Canada so it's explain a lot of things. Even though we have to put billions in the system year after year I belive it's a good thing. Can't imagine going at the hospital and get a 200k bill. For it's just crazy to think about it.
 
:( Sadly you are right. Our Helth care systme is far from being perfect. You can wait hours and hours before you can see a doctor in a hospital. You can wait months before seeing a specialist of any kind. Sometimes is quick other time it's hell. Our system is a good one but it most improve a lot
 

toronto_matt

Sorceror
Yeah but in canada you also have to wait a year before you can see a doctor, am I wrong?

yup your wrong.

most canadians have a GP/Family Doctor. for whatever the reason i can think of i can call her office up tomorrow and see her in 2-3 days. and if she is away i can go to a walk in clinic, and hell if its after 9pm i can just go to the ER. all FREE.

and yes wait times in ER'S may be higher up here but it all depends on what is wrong with you, most people that go to emerge are not dying or in dire need of medical attention, they usually wait 3-4 hours to see a doctor, more serious stuff you go right in. few years back i fucked my knee up playing hockey and a doctor saw me within 20 mins. had an MRI 2 weeks later. all FREE.

i know canada is some small weird country to alot of you but like most 1st world developed countries in the world if one of our citizens are sick or need their lives saved we don't send them a bill at the end of the day. i mean, what year is this. 2014 right. i guess the mighty american dollar and capitalistic greed trumps all!

blame big pharma i guess,
 

amtothepm

Knight
yup your wrong.

most canadians have a GP/Family Doctor. for whatever the reason i can think of i can call her office up tomorrow and see her in 2-3 days. and if she is away i can go to a walk in clinic, and hell if its after 9pm i can just go to the ER. all FREE.

and yes wait times in ER'S may be higher up here but it all depends on what is wrong with you, most people that go to emerge are not dying or in dire need of medical attention, they usually wait 3-4 hours to see a doctor, more serious stuff you go right in. few years back i fucked my knee up playing hockey and a doctor saw me within 20 mins. had an MRI 2 weeks later. all FREE.

i know canada is some small weird country to alot of you but like most 1st world developed countries in the world if one of our citizens are sick or need their lives saved we don't send them a bill at the end of the day. i mean, what year is this. 2014 right. i guess the mighty american dollar and capitalistic greed trumps all!

blame big pharma i guess,
do you have to be a naturalized citizen of Canada to receive these benefits? [e giggle
 
yup your wrong.

most canadians have a GP/Family Doctor. for whatever the reason i can think of i can call her office up tomorrow and see her in 2-3 days. and if she is away i can go to a walk in clinic, and hell if its after 9pm i can just go to the ER. all FREE.

and yes wait times in ER'S may be higher up here but it all depends on what is wrong with you, most people that go to emerge are not dying or in dire need of medical attention, they usually wait 3-4 hours to see a doctor, more serious stuff you go right in. few years back i fucked my knee up playing hockey and a doctor saw me within 20 mins. had an MRI 2 weeks later. all FREE.

i know canada is some small weird country to alot of you but like most 1st world developed countries in the world if one of our citizens are sick or need their lives saved we don't send them a bill at the end of the day. i mean, what year is this. 2014 right. i guess the mighty american dollar and capitalistic greed trumps all!

blame big pharma i guess,

Most of canadians do have not a Family doctor... it's one of the main reason why emergency and clinic are full with people with a flu or shit like that. If you are lucky enough and you have a family doctor, yes you can see a doctor really fast and pass some test, but a lot of people doesn't have this luck.

And of course if you are dying they will take care of you faster then the guys who blown of his knee.

3-4 hours to see a doctor? You mine in a real hospita? No. If you get lucky maybe but most of the time,,, if you are not dying you will wait al leat 6 hours. In a city like toronto or Montreal, youwill wait much more.
 

Neppg

Sorceror
In Canada, is the health care system backed up financially by the tax dollars?

Also how's the taxing in US/CAN, is it a flat tax like 20% for everybody or does it depend on one's income?
 

GM Francis

Ex Hybrid Taskmaster
In Canada, is the health care system backed up financially by the tax dollars?

Also how's the taxing in US/CAN, is it a flat tax like 20% for everybody or does it depend on one's income?

in the usa federal tax rates are income dependent. Theoretically, higher earning individuals are taxed @ a higher percentage than lower earners.
 

Smokeuog

Sorceror
Most of canadians do have not a Family doctor... it's one of the main reason why emergency and clinic are full with people with a flu or shit like that. If you are lucky enough and you have a family doctor, yes you can see a doctor really fast and pass some test, but a lot of people doesn't have this luck.

And of course if you are dying they will take care of you faster then the guys who blown of his knee.

3-4 hours to see a doctor? You mine in a real hospita? No. If you get lucky maybe but most of the time,,, if you are not dying you will wait al leat 6 hours. In a city like toronto or Montreal, youwill wait much more.

I don't know much about Quebec *[e cough seperatists!!* ;) but on the east coast of Canada its really not an issue finding a family doctor.. A really good one that gives a fuck is kinda hard to find.. But that's the same anywhere I'd imagine.. Though like I said idk anything about how Quebec works.. Lol I barely look at it as part of Canada tbh You guys like to do your own thing. ;)
 
I don't know much about Quebec *[e cough seperatists!!* ;) but on the east coast of Canada its really not an issue finding a family doctor.. A really good one that gives a fuck is kinda hard to find.. But that's the same anywhere I'd imagine.. Though like I said idk anything about how Quebec works.. Lol I barely look at it as part of Canada tbh You guys like to do your own thing. ;)

Well, maybe I'm wrong and it's only an issue here in Québec, but I though it was the same in the east coast...

And yea the bad Séparatistes, they want to destroy the country :p Shame on us :) Not sure if it's an issue or not here

Ah les maudits québecois :p

I still think that you have a good Health Care system here, in Canada not just in Québec, but as I said it need to be improve
 
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