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Champion Spawn has way too many spawn than OSI.

Demis did claim to be an OSI clone right so I want to report that the spawn is inaccurate, and imbalance. Risk vs reward for PS in fel is nearly impossible, and the reward is horrible. Spawn reset on us countless of times, and it takes 2 to 3 hours to do them. We're only able to do it at barracoon if we want it to be faster, but anywhere else we're unable to do them.

This number below is OSI kill count per level *Note* it is not per red candles it's the entire level.
http://www.uoguide.com/Champion_Spawns


The number below is Demis kill count according to MB.
Candles/Mobs to next
0 250
1 238
2 226
3 214
4 202
5 190 - 1,320 kills level 1
6 178
7 166
8 154
9 142 - 640 kills level 2
10 130
11 118
12 106 - 354 kills level 3
13 94 - This is where MB use valor so we do not know the missing number here my guess would be an extra 100.
14 82
15 70
16 58 - 304 kills level 4

Now you see the huge different?

This is Demis Charts
LvL 1 - 1320 kills
LvL 2 - 640 kills
lvL 3 - 354 kills
LvL 4 - 304 kills, but doesn't included without the valors.

Diffrent total kills between OSI, and Demis.
OSI - 480 kills
Demis - 2618 kills

This is OSI spawn video
https://youtu.be/au--y4eg03Q

This is Demis spawn video
https://youtu.be/5A23xNFwwb8


 
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Loler

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Humor us. Please implement these changes to the spawn code for test center to just see how easy the spawn on demise would be.
that would be 51 mobs to per red candle for lvl 1
32 mobs per red candle for lvl 2
16 mobs per red candle for lvl 3
and 8 mobs per red candle for lvl 4.

Leave the spawn rate and radius the same. coon will literally take 1-2 minutes to get champ out with 4 people.

Please do this just on test center so you can see how rediculous this is and you can say you never want to implement something like this and opywang can shut up finally.
 
It doesn't matter if it is too easy, or not Demis claimto be an OSI clone, and therefore they need to accept it the way OSI meant it to be.

Changing, or altering it against OSI will be futile!

We cannot even do the spawn on Demis it's nearly impossible it keep resetting on us, and it takes 3 hours to do them!

Fel equal risk vs reward the way Demis has it set there is no reward so we need to make it OSI so we can get our rewards.

Start the video at 5:00 count how many kills I counted 34 for the entire last level this guy is soloing he has no help so this is the most accurate you can get.
https://youtu.be/99EX7zboWN0

If OSI allow this then we should have a fair chance to be allow the same.
 
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april0395

Sorceror
And if you want the champ spawns to be easier, then you'd have to make the mobs just as tough as they are on OSI. Their AI is a lot more complex than what we have, it looks like. Neira is just zipping around everywhere in that video.
 

MadeInQuebec

Forum Member of the Year 2008
Demise has always been "somewhat" of an OSI Clone.

It has always been told that there was a few tweaks here and there. It's based on OSI but tweaked to make it a bit better. Most likely they realised that it makes no sense to have to kill so few mobs to get to the champ, and either increased the volume of mobs, or simply did not decrease them back to OSI's new standards if that's a modification they made at some point.

Champs spawn most likely fall into that category.
 
And if you want the champ spawns to be easier, then you'd have to make the mobs just as tough as they are on OSI. Their AI is a lot more complex than what we have, it looks like. Neira is just zipping around everywhere in that video.

I am not asking them to make the champ spawn easier. I am asking them to follow OSI protoco since they claim it is OSI clone, and there fore they should follow it. So basically what I am doing is reporting an error, and they need to fix the errors.

We'll it's doesn't give them a right to add 2,500 extra mobs because the mobs are easier than OSI. On OSI you kill 32 rotten corps, and on Demis you have to kill 300... Why should we put up with that? I can't get my guild to do spawn because of this, and we're being force to use spell weaving, and force to use certian spells it shouldn't have to be like that.

Also the video is choppy, but if you watch at the beginning of 5:00 it show red candle then it show last level mobs it does not cut nothing out it's accurate with 32 kills for an entire level 4.
 
So you shouldn't have to cast certain spells in a champ spawn?

You want to just go in there, fart, and pile up the scrolls?

That's one of the most retarded statements I've read in a long long time.

What you are asking is to not follow OSI, and make Demis a custom shard. This will violate Demis claims, and it would make Demis a liar for claiming it's OSI clone.

I created a guild for spawn I've recruit 100+ players just for one purpose that is to do spawn. After we did 100+ spawn we fail so many spawn you would not believe it. I started to suspect maybe Game master is playing with the alter to reset it on pourpos so we can't finish it. After so many fail doing the spawn then I realize that it wasn't game master that was playing with us it's the spawn that is imbalance, and rigged.

Now I am very disapointed because I work so hard to make a spawn guild to find out that we're not able to do it. I've spent over 150kk on the guild to get everybody suit, and to get them all geared out. We started out as a fencer I've bought over 50 human fey legging, and I was hoping we can do spawn with just a fencer, and we found out we're unable to do it then we try to change to tamer with greater dragon, and even with greater dragon we barely are able to do it.

All because Demis lied that they claim that it is an OSI clone! Now you see the consequence for lying? All that work I've done gone to waste all because of a lie! So do you really want to lie, and customize the game the way y'all want, and keep on disappointing new players, or new guild that are not aware of this lie that they claim to be OSI clone?
 
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Loler

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Something you have forgotten. Demis is a custom shard.

Even some of the OSI shards have a few custom things to them that other servers didnt have.
 
Something you have forgotten. Demis is a custom shard.

Even some of the OSI shards have a few custom things to them that other servers didnt have.

We'll If the spawn are not matching up with OSi I am not interested in playing this game anymore so how will I know if they will match with OSI, or not so I can just end it now.

I will continue to play till I am 100% sure that they will not follow OSI protocol, and when I find out they will refuse to follow OSI this is when I am going to quit playing.

This is my reason for quitting.
1. I came to play demis to spawn
2. Spawning take 2,500 kills extra than OSI
3. Risk vs reward is not worth the reward
4. It's too much work, it's way to hard, and takes way too long.
5. It cost too much to build a suit design for this spawn avg 20kk to 250kk.
5. It's limit to spell weave only

I need to know if the shard take pride in following OSI standard if I find out that this shard take pride in it, and will try it's best to keep the player happy by trying to match up with OSI then I will wait for them to fix this, but the question is how can I find out so I can hurry end this, and move on.

There is already an another shard that has spawn match up with OSI. It's illegal to post, or advertise about other shard, but this is what we will do we will just move to other shard because our only interest is spawning, and we want spawning to be fair.

I need to know if Demis will follow OSI standard the sooner I know the better so we can hurry and move on, and enjoy our spawning with our guild, but meanwhile we will stay here on Demis with our finger cross hoping that the spawn will be fix properly, and we do not wish to move to other shard, but if we have no choices then this is what we must do.
 
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Bama

Bug Huntress
this guy is soloing he has no help so this is the most accurate you can get.
https://youtu.be/99EX7zboWN0

You do know Opy that this video you are using is a little messed up
If you want to compare OSI with Demise first make sure it is an OSI video you are using
After that you need to at least get a video that has the changes that Demise is using

An example
The person in the video (from 2007) is spamming evasion check it out at around 2:00 to 2:15
Demise has a 20 second cool down OSI nerfed it in 2008 Publish 43

Just saying Opy
 
You do know Opy that this video you are using is a little messed up
If you want to compare OSI with Demise first make sure it is an OSI video you are using
After that you need to at least get a video that has the changes that Demise is using

An example
The person in the video (from 2007) is spamming evasion check it out at around 2:00 to 2:15
Demise has a 20 second cool down OSI nerfed it in 2008 Publish 43

Just saying Opy

I'm the only one doing all the work trying to find the evident, and this is the best evident I found so far. Plus OSI has already posted how many kills it take, and it this link right here. http://www.uoguide.com/Champion_Spawns

Player doesn't want to believe in it, and it's accurate I believe it's telling the truth. On OSi spawn is more spread out it's not like on Demis on Demis spawn is clutter together, and on OSI you can just walk in a mage, and just fire ball, and nothing will attack you, or block you like it does on Demis.

I watch the video the player doesn't kill much, and the spawn is leveling very fast you can see the white candle it just poping like crazy one after the other.

We need somebody that is on OSI right now to join a spawn guild to take a video for us, but the question is who, and I can understand that spawning is the most darkest place, and it's hard to grab evident because it's where pker roam, and it's really hard to get a perfect video without getting pked. So what we really need is somebody that is already in a spawn guild, and to spawn to take a video for us so we can compare it.

Unless maybe there is already a better, and more accurate video some where, and we just need to find it, and if anybody else find it then I would appreciate it so much if somebody would just post it here.
 
But that will show us what the spawn is like in the post-ML era. No idea if any changes were made beyond that point..

We'll we gotta do something we're not able to enjoy spawning on demis it's way to hard, and it's no fun so it need to be fix asap. KoV is waiting stationing, and we're ready to spawn so we need to get this figure out.

I've already posted, and show video, and show the website. Even what I posted wasn't enough so what more do y'all need, and I'll try my best to gather anything I can find.
 
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